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388 contributions to Agency Service Scaling Kings👑
Getting New Clients
Might sound like a stupid question But for agency owners doing over 10k/pm do you still believe that cold outreach is actually worth the time and hassle? My experience has always been that you'll attract curious leads, who want to find a way to shortcut success and are looking for a golden ticket offer with 101 guarantees, no work involved and free until they make 100k Maybe I was bad at sales and pitching, I don't know but keen to hear everyone's thoughts before I jump in and commit to 500 to see if it's still worth it Got some free time on my schedule now so just trying to stay smart
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@Alessandro Ciotti Yea nice one I did try going down that route but struggled with finding the setters I've not really got anything to lose by doing outbound because I have the free time. But I'm gonna give it a whirl with personalised looms
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@Rokas Jukna yea appreciate that Probably a decent element of positioning errors on my end Do you have any recommendations on structuring the sales process. I'd lean towards 2 call where you do say a brief run through initially and get a gauge on the client and then if they're genuine set up another call?
My client gets a proposal 5 minutes after our call ends. Here's the exact workflow.
Hi all I've been struggling with sending proposals on time, and I know a lot of you have too. You finish a discovery call, the client is excited, and then you spend 2 hours writing a proposal from scratch, formatting it, attaching it, sending it manually. By the time it lands in their inbox the energy is gone. They moved on. I spent some time last week building a simple automation for this, and it now sends professional proposals 100% automatically for less than $10/m: 1. Fill a simple form after every sales call Just enter the client name, service, and price into a Tally form (free). That's your only manual step. Everything else is automatic. 2. n8n catches the form submission instantly The Tally trigger in n8n fires the moment you hit submit. No delay. No checking. 3. n8n generates the proposal using AI A GPT-4 node takes the client name, service and price and writes a clean, professional proposal automatically. Personalized every time. 4. The proposal gets converted into a PDF n8n sends the text to a free PDF generation API. A clean, ready-to-send document no formatting needed from you. 5. Gmail sends it to the client automatically The PDF lands in the client's inbox with a personalized email within 5 minutes of your call ending. While your competitor is still opening Word. 6. Google Sheets logs everything Client name, service, price, date sent all logged automatically. You always know where every proposal stands. Total cost: Tally (free) + n8n cloud (~$8/m) + PDF API (free tier) Set it up once. It runs forever. I used to spend 2 hours per proposal. Now it takes me 2 minutes to fill a form and the rest is done. If anything is unclear drop a comment, happy to help 🙏
My client gets a proposal 5 minutes after our call ends. Here's the exact workflow.
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Not hating, but I do think it's important to say this I don't recommend to viewers here to send proposals. I actually have a no email policy with prospective clients My goal is to close them on the call The only reason they'd want an email is because of a lack of clarity (my fault) or because they're bad decision makers
Ad saturation/exhaustion?
Wanted to look at this topic, how do you guys usually go about determining if an ad is saturated ? I’ve seen a lot of people that just look at frequency… but I’ve been getting a lot of the same people coming through like a good 40% of the leads are repeat I’d say, and Cpl rose a bit. But curious how do you guys determine ad exhaustion/saturation?
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Yea been fucking me over too I recently started letting Facebook do the optimisation whereas I'd have always done it manually Take an adset with 5 creatives for example. It will get a winner, funnel all the spend to it then cpl shits the bed within like 3 days The solution i believe is to keep adding new creatives to the adset. But realistically to do this with any sort of logic you need to be tracking cpl daily and actually have ad creatives available to test and fuck that Instead I'll just do manual ad set testing 5 adsets, 5 ad creatives. Take the winners, keep them in their own adset and just give them more spend and then FB win't waste $250 on some shitty $100 cpl ad creatives. fuck you zuck
Pixel Seasoning
@Uncle Jimmy Mitchell This is just becoming my new way of DM'ing Jimmy but doing it in the group so everyone can see Pixel seasoning! The idea of training your pixel to know what type of leads are good Am I right in saying that if I do let's say a conditional lead form that qualifies people on age (completely hypothetical scenario to make my point) where everyone over 50 is directed to a thank you page with a pixel and the viewers on this page are registered as leads. And everyone under 50 is directed to a seperate page The pixel will learn and start to show the ads to more people who are registering as leads or the same demographic and my results will get exponentially better? This sounds great. I'm just wondering is this something you or anyone is proactively doing? And if so does it come with any contingencies. General recommended minimum spend, certain number of qual q's etc Would this actually give me a noticeable increase in results in your opinion Thanks guys, keen to learn more if i can
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@Jason Yin Hey dude I appreciate the response And yes I'm aware, I'll be doing this through GHL not Facebook and building landing pages for it And no, the 50 thing is a hypothetical as stated 🙌
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@Uncle Jimmy Mitchell Yea dude that helps thanks Still feel like I'm on a hamster wheel lol though lol, not on account of anything you've said. Just need to get my shit together
Awkward situation with meta ads
So I've been running ads for my bathroom renovation client but a little over 3 weeks now. The daily spend is £20 and so far I've got 6 leads but only 2 decent ones that converted into a consultation (the other 4 aren't even leads). One of them got a site visit, the other got disqualified but both ended up not having the budget so not converting. I had a call with my client this morning discussing what could be done about this, and i tried suggesting us adding a minimum budget onto the creative itself, something like 'bathrooms starting from £X' so people who dont have the money wont be filling it out. Problem is, the client doesn't know the minimum budget as each bathroom varies from person to person so its difficult to put a minimum budget there. So im kind of at a loss as to what to do. I'm not generating enough leads and i dont know how to get the right kind
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@Mehran Khan Incredibly based comment Take a bathroom, say your client makes minimum £3k (assuming like minimum bathroom £6k rev 50% margins) Surely he'd be willing to spunk a grand on ads to try and build a predictable system to bring him 3-4 of these a month with like 3-7x ROAS
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Emmett McCarry
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Creative director and founder of LensFusion Media. A social media based marketing agency, driven by photography and targeted advertising

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