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Social Predators and Status Leeches
Okay, Guys !
After the mega-post that wasn't mine, here is my first post that's truly mine. First of all: I found Sartain's Off-Market System extremely interesting, as it brought back to mind and put into perspective things I already used to do automatically in my past, but which I gradually let go of.
Why did I let them go ? No, not because girls weren't offering me things (even though I was an idiot who thought he had "ethic and values", and so I gave up on threesomes for reasons that seem trivial in hindsight), but for other reasons.
I’d love to hear your opinions on them, especially from those who have already gotten a social circle somewhat started, partly thanks to what they studied here.
1) The first problem I encountered in the social circles I organized (40-50 people) stemmed from certain types of males I defined as "social predators" or "status leeches", who fundamentally enter the group not to have a good time with you and the others, but either to harass/undermine you — the reference point in the group — or to "plunder" the girls, taking advantage of your "halo effect" by saying "I'm friends with X" and then sleeping with girls based on your reputation.
You might say, simple, kick these people out of your social circle. The problem I had was that these people are very manipulative, and fundamentally, what they do is act friendly with the group members, while for their own "gain" they constantly needle you, complain about seemingly small things, basically disrespecting you under the radar but repeatedly, as if trying to slowly "eat away" your status.
With one of these people from my past, a lot of trouble happened: long story short, he was a dickhead, treaten a girl, I've "saved this girl" telling her to not invite again him when I'm around, she tried to trick me in-to meet him for whatever reason anyway, I called her on her behaviour in private at first and then on our WhatsApp group when I've decided to left it, and she invented that I've choke her in a public place and other crazy stuff.
Moral of the story : Without me around one month later this group = extinct.
2) A similar episode happened in 2020-2022, I don't know about you, but I wasn't too keen on staying home during COVID, so I organized a new outing group—again, 30-40 people—and again, one of the guys at a certain point started jumping down my throat, spreading lies about me, and trying to "undermine" my status in the group.
Again, I gave up on that group too, and since then, I've stopped building social circles.
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What made me decide to not build another circle was this :
1) Those guys are quite stupid, instead of enjoying the company of people and free sex, they try to go "homo" (with all the respect for gay people) on me by trying to fuck with me. I can't do anything against stupidity. Again, try to imagine yourself in a group with free sex, and instead of just enjoy that, you go homo on the perceveid """"alpha"""" of the group.
2) The other member of the group prefer to not take sides, just still enjoy the group, even if one month later it die without the reference point. They do not recognize the reference point.
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Btw, the ironic thing is that both those guys that tried to undermine me, were two guys that were already fucking a girl they fall for and that I don't care about, but those girls do care a lot about me, and so those guys decided to fuck with me, even if I was not interested in """their"""" girls.
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Have you ever experienced anything like this?
How did you or how would you have handled a similar situation?
How can one protect themselves from such things, in your opinion?
The only thing I'm thinking about lately is maintaining a certain distance from people and not being "extremely democratic" and "present" with everyone like I was in the past (Counselor training here)
I'll add one last thing that often happens to me: guys, especially, tend to imitate every little thing I do, every look I put together, they want to get in on every initiative of mine (hoping to "plunder" here and there). They don't understand that a large part of my "success" and "charisma" comes from the fact that I add value wherever I go; I don't plunder or take anything away from others. These """"friends"""" are actually trying to exploit what you build, often scorching the earth around what you create.
What is the solution to this last point as well in your opinion ?
Thank you for your time !
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Social Predators and Status Leeches
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