An interview with Erik Fernholm and Nate Hagens recorded on Sept. 5, 2024
Erik unpacks the nuance and complexities of creating such a massive project, and discusses how he’s used the IDGs in his own life to foster personal change.
He speaks of our need for scaffolding (a metaphor for the IDGs), support and empowerment to making lasting change. We’re in this together.
One of the key points Erik makes is about staying in the discomfort when we feel overwhelmed by difficult situations and talking about it as opposed to shutting down and turning away. Difficult conversations are the only way through to the other side.
When you listen to this interview what resonates with you?