Sure man, put me on trial. I have no idea where it will lead either of us, why not see? I feel like it's a good thing to put these things to rigorous tests. If something can be replicated and understood, then that's ultimately a good thing, isn't it? I've been studying this sort of stuff in some sense or another basically my whole life. If enlightenment is a real concept at all, in any sense, then it's something that has meaning and structure to it. That means it is something that can actually be studied. If it's not real, but people are still achieving something, then that's something. And something can be studied. I will say; it does seem the word enlightenment seems to mean many things, and isn't a unified concept. There are probably multiple forms, potentially endlessly, in some sense. So, what does it mean to you, or what are you attempting to achieve? If you can outline it, I'd be happy to attempt to help you reach that state, and then from there, we can learn from it further, together. You'd be able to speak about it from your own perspective, and that would probably reveal something. Others can learn from it, you, and your processes, and you'd be able to help others reach that state, too. In this, distinctions between other states would probably be identified, and more depth and variety can be outlined from it. I imagine it must be similar to "Art". That's a broad term and concept, and almost meaningless, in some sense. But it's a word, and people generally have a mental concept of "Art". Someone who produces "Art", genuinely, will recognize what and where the "Art" is, in whatever it is they do. A painter, for example, paints, and produces a painting, with paint, and painting techniques and processes. So, where is the "Art", where is the "Artist", what is the "Art" process? The response seems to be that "Art" is the process itself; whatever the individual is doing, when they engage in whatever it is they are doing. In the example of the painter, the "Art" is not in the painting, but the mental/emotional/physical state, all together, for the duration. When others try to mimic this, it seems they only ever remain a painter, that produces paintings, and show other painted pictures. There is not "Art" to view, because there was never any "Art" present to begin with, the individual was never an artist, they were always mentally a painter, predominantly painting painted pictures for others to view, and never for the process itself.

@Erhard H. Hey man, no worries, let's get into it: Yeah, so, let's take this one idea at a time: How can the mind analyze something not originating in the mind? What is the mind, where is it? What is meant by mind? Is a tree in my mind? Are these words? The concept of sacred geometry examines patterns and themes, suggesting that by examining these patterns, we can derive meaning from them. If something is within perception, then it is within the mind, meaning it must be partly the mind itself. There is nothing other than the mind, in a very real sense. Sound can be converted into colour, colour can be converted into smell, senses converted into emotions, emotions into art and science, or even just tangible material. So, what would be meant by mind, what would be meant by analysis, and what is outside of the mind? From harmonics, the concept of an overtone can perhaps give some concept of an overmind. Everything is atoms, or some sense of interaction pertaining to atoms. From there, ideas can be derived of what might exist outside of atomic interactions. From which place do you observe the one who observes? This might be as simple as introspection. I'm not sure what is meant by this. Place? This would depend on one's sense of where the mind/observer is. In my view, it's everywhere, everything. So the place is wherever the mind is or goes. "As within, so without" seems to be referring to the same location. There is no "in" or "out" there is just the localized mind. With the addition of an overmind concept, this can mean a meta-mind interaction. Two minds can come together and form overminds, forming meta-overminds, this could allow for some potential for observing other observer minds, and/or other overminds, potentially. What would be meant by place, what would be meant by observe, and what would meta-observation be and mean? The risk becomes attempting to see meaning in other's words, when meaning isn't outlined. Overextrapolation and interpolation leads to less clarity overall.

Still in development, currently off-line as far as I'm aware.

@Paula Kay I had a beard down to my knees in dreadlocks, it captured 4 years, reflected in growth. I had a girlfriend for some of that time, and the relationship was rocky. When I cut the locks off, I noticed there was this weird thing where the hair started off regal and voluminous, became weak and thin, then went back to solid and fully regenerated. So... when my ex wanted to get back together, I brought out the dreads, and had a polite conversation: "My precious little sweet pea, my little love, see this? This is where you first met me, this is where you were in my life, and this is where you left. See how there's this pattern? I don't think we're getting back together". Seriously. Basically lost all of my hair. My face dreads I needed to thread to keep together at times. My head dreads I needed to combine. I thought my glory days were just over. The dreads fucked up my hairline, but, at least I still got my hair back lol. Oh. I uh, was basically a wild caveman at the time. I didn't use products. Baking soda. My litmus is that I had several girlfriends all throughout that time, all of them were pretty and civilized so I'm pretty sure they would have left if I was totally gross. The hair was the thing they fawned over. Baking soda. Stress killed it. Once I dealt with the stress, though, came back fine. Only reason I got rid of all of it is because I started to nearly snap my neck every time I'd pass a door handle or something, getting caught in machinery, etc. I looked like Cousin It, if Cousin It was also Davey Jones or The Predator. I think it's mostly stress related. I don't think it's diet either, not exactly. My diet ranged drastically at that time, so even the best times, it doesn't seem diet played much of a role either which way. I don't think it was sleep, either, because I was working a few jobs that required lengthy waking periods. I can't think of anything else it might/could be, or what other factors to consider. If diet could have been a factor, it would have been eggs.

@Bonnie Bearsong I don't suppose I can coherently communicate what I'd like, but you've given me something to reflect on further. I had started to write out something I wanted to get your impression of, because I'm not exactly sure a gnostic, heretical Christian, voodoo chaos shaman synthesis is all that common. They are all things I identify as, or have identified as. I imagine we must be similar. It's all stuff I've never actually written out, all at once, in context. As I was writing all of it, some things started to recontextualize. Everything I wrote was more or less true, as in, it all happened. But as I reread some of it, I felt a sense of taking on guilt that really wasn't necessary. I've done a lot of things in life, and it's difficult to tell if it was good or bad, right or wrong. Anyway, the "guides" or whatever they are/were, things I had occasionally seen in my dreams, just left one day, and I figured that was it. Eventually, I figured I sort of "failed" or something. I moved on. I'd never really considered the training could have still been ongoing. I simply moved on, the word and concept of "shaman" evolved. None of this really means anything without context, but I just wanted to say thanks. I suspect, genuinely, it would have been very difficult for someone/anyone else to just have this impact, by sheer random chance. Stories. They are symbolic. I got caught up focusing on the literal events of life, and haven't looked at some of the broader symbolism beyond. In retrospect, having written everything, ... perhaps I've been my own trickster this entire time, in some sense. Hiding my own self in plain sight. Perhaps that's the real role of the shaman, to help others see the trickster within, and not the spiritual world without.

@Sugam Nepal yo . . . same, once, lol. Then I realized those long messages were coming in quicker than my own type speed, and I have an absurdly fast type speed. I had no idea AI existed at the time lol. Legit still don't know if whoever I was talking to, actually just liked talking to me or not, because it started scammy, then just became general. After I stopped responding, the account let me know they liked talking with me, so not sure if that was genuine. I had a similar interaction when I boomered the absolute shit out of trying to figure out snapchat. Somehow added a scammer, talked for months, kept trying to send me money, legit thought I had a sugar mom. Stopped responding around a holiday, when I said someone else must be more deserving. Legit wonder if even scammers can feel empathy and remorse after a point.

@Meg Neumann Were the accounts posting in the community, or was it in the DMs? Unfortunately, if it's in the DMs, nothing can be done at the moderation level. However, due to how sneaky the bots/scammers can be, it's perhaps not a bad idea to at least log and flag the names. You can use this thread if you'd like, it provides a little more info on the nature of moderation and limitations of skool tools and the platform itself. https://www.skool.com/spiritual-rebels/quick-note-on-bots-moderation-and-limitations-of-skool-tools?p=2ec1bc45

What are your findings with tuning forks, relating to "manifestation"? I've been contemplating the nature of "manifestation" vs "creation". Are you familiar with hemi-sync, the gateway concept? I'm cautiously planning on exploring the concept. I'm cautious about my intent, I enjoy creating from a limited state. If I had any more ability to bend reality in the extremely silly manner I already do, I don't suppose I'd take anything any more seriously. I would be an absolute metaphysical menace. "Morty, I'm a leg. ... I'm a leg Morty". I know myself well enough to know what I'd likely do in an unfettered state, nothing bad, but perhaps nothing of high potential, either. Just really bad, boring, artistic renditions of reality, merely because I could. I'd turn every ideal and aspiration into a caricature and farce, a sham-mockery. "Behold, Plato's Man". I don't think it'd be positive. I'd want to show accurate reflections of the world, but in doing so, I don't think anyone would grow from it, I don't think there'd be benefit. The mind/body/brain is a tuning fork, in a sense. The overtone/overmind is a concept I've been wondering about. Mostly along ethical lines. If one could alter the overtones, then should they? I'm skeptical of the ability to make these decisions. I'm skeptical of the long-term impacts and nature of manifestation in the derivative sense. To pull something from the fabric of reality; I wonder where it is pulled from, why, how, what it could mean, and the consequences. Creation is overall significantly slower and more arduous, but it seems potentially safer. Unfortunately, once something is created, it can not be destroyed. I've been contemplating this nature, too. Creating an overtone, or even just altering the overtone, would require more interference. And I'm not sure what to make of this.

@Bill Boss Hey man, if I'm advanced, I don't know what that makes you, because this is something, you did something "straight out of the box" lol. Try to think of it like specialization and attunement, rather than being further along. I could probably teach you everything I personally know and what I'm working on as prototypes, and in a month, you'd probably exponentially skyrocket, merely because we're fundamentally ourselves, and so, the lives, possibilities, and probabilities are different. It's really neat, I have no idea what anyone could or would do, what anyone could or would become, do, experience, etc. Different seeds, in different conditions, resulting in different plants, impacting their own ecosystems, changing their bioregions, changing the world in some sense, lol. Do you have any videos or anything on this? Like, what you specifically looked at? It worked for you, something occurred, somehow, someway. I don't actually know much about this topic, outside of rudimentary meandering. If you want to get really loopy with it; in my view and understanding, it's not quite exactly that you ran across random things, and random things did some stuff. Those forks and tones were you, to begin with. You found yourself; the forks of you, found the fork, that is you. The tones just wanted to exist in this way, you wanted to experience yourself through tones. I don't know if that's way too out there or weird, I am genuinely passionate about this stuff, but I also try not to take it too seriously and get overly insane with any of it. Life is a game, in some sense, if something is genuinely fun in a positive, productive sense, it's paint on the canvas of life. We're just painters; a painter paints, the outcome is a painting. It's in that process of painting, that the art lives. When an individual sees a painting, the process of living in the painting, that's the art. The painting is merely a thing. Well, hey man, I write a shitload, huh? If you find it annoying; hey, totally, I understand, don't worry about it. I just genuinely try to express myself as written words, and attempt to experience others in the communication process.