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Starting My Business - Progress and Lessons Learned
I want to document the development of my business and record insights if it may be of help to anyone here. Also, it will help me to record insights for my own reflection. Lawrence encouraged me to start a business diary on the forum so that’s what this is. Feel free to chime in or ask questions if anything is of interest to you. Currently, I have a business partnership with a local chiropractic and medical center that has a 1600 ft.² machine-based gym available to patients only. The creation of this partnership was a major lesson learned which I will document. It has not been perfect, but it allowed me to get back into personal training without any upfront costs other than the establishment of my LLC. I first became a personal trainer in 2010 after I got out of the army. I worked part time in a few clubs while I was going to college, which led me to managing a gym that was associated with a physical therapy clinic from 2016 to 2017. I got out of the business because the money was terrible, and I entered into corporate marketing and franchise operations at that time. I still work in inside digital marketing and sales to grocery store owners (a tough crowd!) Around 2023, I discovered Mike Mentzer through John Little’s videos. At that time, I shifted my own training style towards heavy duty for about a year. Somewhere around mid 2024, I discovered this podcast and dove a lot deeper into the evolution of high intensity training through the many leaders in HIT that we all know about. I also shifted my training more towards what I would describe as a Nautilus style HIT routine so that I could experience a more simple form of high intensity training without the complexities of pre-exhaust, super sets, etc. My reason for this is that I wanted to put myself in the shoes of a client with regards to workout timing, exercise selection, and overall general feeling at the end of a 30 minute HIT workout. Around the end of the year, I decided that I wanted to bring the style of training to more people and re-ignite my career as a personal trainer, all thanks to Lawrence and the many guests of the podcast.
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@Daniel Thompson I’ve been counting reps with clients using a tally counter, and I have a second stop watch that counts down from 2:00. If they are hitting failure before 1:00, I will sometimes have them do an intensifier technique. For myself, I started using the Seconds App on my phone with a magnetic phone holder attached to the machine. I can set a timer that has a countdown to get to set up, a halfway alert, and beeps on the final few seconds. I’ve tested using this app with clients, and it creates an interesting dynamic where they seem to push harder as long as the clock is still going.
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I had a bit of a reality check earlier, thanks to a conversation with Lawrence. It has taken me on a journey of introspection over the last week. I have come to the conclusion that I have likely been undervaluing myself and my services while not reaching my target market effectively. One realization is that my message or positioning has been largely irrelevant because the value of what I offer have been not been communicated to referral sources by the medical staff, my only source of leads. This is despite my repeated efforts to train and educate the staff. They still simply say, “We have a personal trainer who does 30-minute sessions,” which sounds cheap. I have provided copy for emails and social posts for internal marketing, but it has been ignored. In summary, I created a bad business deal. My intention was to rent this facility to launch my own brand. They counter offered with, “We can give you as many leads as you will ever want, but you will be a provider under our banner.” I accepted, but it was too good to be true. Now, I need to branch out. I have two other potential avenues to train clients which would allow me the ability to do networking, warm outreach, Bark, and other sources. One is a partnership with our neighborhood Anytime Fitness. It is small, but it is immaculately clean with new Hammer Strength Select for a 70/30 split. Second is a $250/mo standard rent of a commercial gym that has even more machines, specifically Nautilus Nitro and other unique pieces. However, it is a bodybuilder/powerlifter gym and may not appeal to high end clients. I will have to figure all of this out, but for now, I feel like some progress has been made, even if only in my own mind.
Imagine Strength pieces & Analyzer
On Sunday I will be going to a studio which has 18 of the new IS pieces and the Analyzer. It is in Sarasota, Florida. If anyone has any questions they would like me to ask let me know
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How did it go, Jeremy?
Would you open a business here?
There is a unique commercial rental concept near me called Flex Spaces. These are brand new semi industrial type units designed for small entrepreneurs. Think of a really clean new garage gym. Would you open a personal training business in a unit like this? Pros: -Affordable. 1,000 sq ft at $1,600/mo with 1 year lease. -Right off of major commuter highway with easy road access. The buildings are visible with large lettering and lit up at night. - Very near an even larger highway that could unlock access for more of the city (~100,000) with relative ease -Large garage door will make equipment load in easy. Single large window for natural lighting. -Bathroom with heating and cooling. Cons: -Located in an semi-industrial area. Not nestled within neighborhoods, but <5 minutes from target neighborhoods. -No curbside visibility beyond the Flex Spaces signage for individual tenants. The only tenant specific signage available appears to be a painted logo on a garage door. -The doctor’s office waiting room vibe will not work here. It is clean and new, but it is still like a garage.
Would you open a business here?
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@Daniel Thompson I could do some minimal build out. I would probably just put down carpet tiles and maybe a sign on the wall with some paint possibly.
DON'T rely on paid ads to grow your HIT business
Lots of strength training business owners are relying on paid ads to get clients. The problem is you’re spending money to acquire clients in a business model that already has incredibly high LTV and strong referral rates. And to make it worse, most clients who come in from paid ads—especially META—are low-quality, price-shopping, and rarely stick around long enough to generate real ROI. They don’t refer their friends, either. This leads to lower profit margins, dependency on ad platforms, and burning cash that could go straight to your pocket. After helping businesses go from $0 to $12,573/mo, $8,815/mo to $19,780/mo, and $34,400/mo to $58,480/mo, here’s what I’d do instead: Build a proven organic system using warm outreach, email marketing, and basic social media. This works because HIT businesses have naturally high retention and referral rates when done right — your clients don’t leave and they tell their friends. Which leads to predictable growth, higher profit margins, and money going straight into your pocket instead of Zuckerberg’s. Now, strength training business owners, you can think about it like this… Are you trying to spend money to grow? Or are you trying to keep every dollar you earn while growing faster with clients who stay longer and refer more?
DON'T rely on paid ads to grow your HIT business
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Lawrence, I understand the organic nurturing process and the hope to obtain referrals, but how would you suggest obtaining the emails for the email list or the followers on social media without some initial paid advertising?
Billing & Payments Question
Quick question for the crew — how do you handle billing when clients travel or miss sessions? I currently use monthly recurring billing, which keeps income predictable but gets tricky when clients miss more than a week or want to “bank” sessions or reschedule a bunch at once — even though it’s technically a use-it-or-lose-it setup to hold their spot. Have you found a system that keeps income consistent, sets clear expectations and is easy to manage for you? Curious what’s worked best for you.
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@Murray Knox does that mean you would allow them to do more sessions in a week than normal, including back to back days, in order to use their missed sessions?
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Logan Bayless
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Personal trainer and high intensity training enthusiast.

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Joined Aug 25, 2025
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