@Matt Perryman 1-2% conversions is the name of the beast when you're going direct response. And to be completely honest, those conversion rates absolutely decimate my motivation when I have to do those 100 outreaches manually. Doing things differently is part of the usual marketing strategy so depending on your communication style and what you ARE willing to do differently, then you might actually have a competitive advantage, albeit one that's near impossible to spot when you're still doing all that manual lead gen. ### I don't know if you have money to spare, but I can hook you up with a $7/month facebook ads targeting coaching program, that is built on sound principles, not hack-of-the-month bullshit. NO, it's not my program. No I'm not making affiliate income, I'm telling you this as a way to offer something that might ease your grievances. The ads strategy builds a "conveyer belt" of cold-to-sold leads that works kinda-sorta like email marketing, with the biggest difference being that Facebook knows who your "list" is, you don't, but you can market to them all the same. It's a two step strategy that first uses a certain kind of ad to figure out who's marginally interested in your offer and then uses a second kind of ad to selectively retarget only the most interested, and thus spend your primary ad spend on those who are closest to converting right now. The general consensus is that it'll take you about 3 months to generate a solid, consistent and predictable flow of clients, and the paid ads strategy costs about $500-$900/month to run. Once it's set up, it takes about 1 hour/week to update, tweak and maintain. So, a loss in the beginning and then it starts printing money. I've seen STUPID ROI from people I trust. So my gut feeling is that it's way less bizoppy than most paid ads strategies out there. Let me know if you're interested and I'll talk with the owner to see if I can send you an invite link (It's invite-only right now IIRC).