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7 contributions to Tonvaro - Client Acquisition
Apologies, no group call this week
Hey everyone, apologies for going quiet, but I've been moving house (relocating from NSW to QLD) and am yet to have the internet turned on at my new place. First thing I tried as a workaround was hotspotting my phone but the speed here is absolute garbage 0.24Mb! So theres absolutely no way I'll be able to get on a conference call. Ive organised NBN (fibre) which will hopefully be sorted this week.
Apologies, no group call this week
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Like I said yesterday, you can upload your own video mate, you just can't watch it haha.
Helping out while John is temporarily out of the office.
Hey everyone! John has had some urgent matters come up that have taken his focus away from the group this week. I've offered to help out, answer any questions, and keep the group ticking while he's gone. As an FYI, I run an agency in Australia doing 100k/month, and I also advertise solidly on Meta and run a lot of video ads for my own clients there. If a mistake has been made in agency land, you better believe I've made it, haha. So if you've got any questions, just put them in the thread below. I won't be taking the weekly group calls; I'll let John get back to you guys and let you know if that's still on.
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[1] Editor pricing (ranges) I genuinely have no benchmarks here. If you’re open to sharing ballpark numbers: – What were you roughly paying the agency per video? – And with a monthly editor now, what kind of range are we talking about? – In your experience, what’s more common: per short, per long-form video, hourly, or a fixed monthly salary? I'm probably paying $125 to 200 AUD per video for short form. For longer form, like a YouTube, it's probably 2-3x that, that's an estimate. Not something I've tracked closely on that as we don't do it for clients. Previously, I was paying more like 150-250 USD per video, which adds up in AUD. I've got agency friends who are hiring for anywhere from 1000-1500 USD for decent talent. It makes sense what you say about non-English markets, I never considered it and don't have much advice unfortunately. [2] Simpler vs highly polished ads I wouldn't say there's any correlation as yet between polished ads and unpolished. I've had ones that i've put together fairly poorly through capcat and they've performed really well. I've had clients who stand there and speak the script in a monotone voice, and it still performs well. Most of the time, we just get crappy iPhone footage from clients, and then, through the power of my editor, we try to jazz it up. Lawyers can often want bigger production, only once did i have one that i couldn't convince. They wanted to spend 20k on a video or a number of videos, and I just tried to highlight that we need to figure out the offer first before we even bother, otherwise you'll spend 20k and automatically need a new piece of creative if it's not working. If you look at Ryan Stewart and Webris, alot of his examples are just point and shoot also. [3] Sales transition So this happened last year in April, that's almost 12 years in business down the road, so don't look to me as an example. In fairness, I made an alot of mistakes here, and I paid the sales guy too much. At one point, we had his calendar maxed out for almost two months straight. Our best month was 11 new retainers. Unfortunately, I was about to let him go due to declining sales and lack of profitability on his salary, and he ended up quitting. Since then, I've taken sales back, and the advice from those I've spoken with is to stick with it, as founders generally close well, and good sales are hard to find. If i did it again i'd want them to be well fed and i would just do commission only or small base + commission.
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@Robert Vangolden Thanks Robert, you're always welcome to reach out and ask any questions. I'm an open book with this stuff and i'm happy to share and hopefully you can do the same with me if you see things working really well in certain areas, i'd love to hear about it.
Meta Ads Offer Ideas
Looking for some nice offer ideas I can test for ads. I asked ChatGPT about some, and here were some interesting ones: - If we don't identify 5 revenue opportunities, you get $100 - We'll show you exactly how competitors outrank you, or we'll send you $50 - No contracts, no long-term commitment. Just proven opportunities Then CTA will be "Request Review", or "Book a Call" Thoughts?
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What's your best performing ecomm client, what kind of result did you get for them? I would work your way back from that. I think there's a place for guarantees and risk reversals and they definitely help through sales like john said $50 bucks is not going to get anyone's attempt. Market research is big here, the longer you spend the better off you're going to come up with.
Are Meta Ads a primary acquisition channel for law firms & wealth managers in DACH?
I’d like to get some grounded input from people actually running paid acquisition in regulated, high-trust niches. For context: I’ve been working for ~8 years in the DACH region (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) with two verticals: 1) Law firms 2) Wealth / asset management firms Up to now, our strongest and most reliable growth channels have been: – Google Local SEO – International SEO – YouTube authority content All fully tracked via WhatConverts — so this is based on real data, not assumptions. Going into 2026, I want to deliberately expand into paid acquisition: – Google Ads – Meta (Facebook / Instagram) Ads – potentially LinkedIn Ads Since John recommends Meta Ads as a primary acquisition channel inside Tonvaro, I'm considering whether this channel is suitable for my two niches. My current thinking: Law firms: Decision cycles can be short only when there’s a clear legal trigger (e.g. disputes, tax issues, urgent matters). In those cases, Google Ads make obvious sense. For more strategic legal services, decision cycles are long and trust-driven. Wealth management: Decision cycles are almost always long (months, not days). Trust, reputation, authority and personal chemistry matter far more than immediacy. That’s where my hesitation with Meta Ads comes in — especially as a primary acquisition channel: – high-trust services – conservative decision-makers – long sales cycles – reputation-sensitive markets – DACH audiences that tend to resist aggressive push advertising If I go deep into learning Meta Ads inside this group, it would naturally translate into client implementation — but only if it truly fits these verticals. So I’d love real-world feedback: – Has anyone here successfully used Meta Ads for law firms or wealth managers/financial industry? – Was Meta used as cold acquisition or mainly as retargeting / authority amplification? – What kind of offer or funnel actually produced high-quality leads (not just volume)? Looking forward to insights from people with real data and experience — not just theory.
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We've found certain niches like Immigration, Personal Injury, Family Law work well on both Meta/Google. Other areas like litigation, commercial/business law etc seems more Google centric but in saying that, I think business should work really well my issue to date is getting lawyers to come up with a stronger off. Because business law often filters into compliance, it's sometimes a nice to have versus a must have, proactive vs reactive, and proactive is a harder space to target.
Google ads at the start of SEO Campaign
Has anyone had success running Google Ads in the first 30–90 days of a new SEO campaign to generate leads fast and keep the client confident while SEO ramps up? If yes, how do you usually set it up (budget, campaign type, keywords, landing pages), and what mistakes should I avoid?
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@Daniel Stead you can. If you’re running it out of your account then all your site links, call-outs etc will probably get messy hard to manage. We’ve run into issues with multiple domains at times, within ad groups or security. Lastly, I’m moving very much to a closed system; which just means that I want to track everything including the leads I generate and if you send to a client website, you need to work out if it’s yours or not. If it comes through your landing page and your forms, then you can put it in a spreadsheet and make it clear you’ve generated it. I do think there are pros and cons to landing pages vs actual website, I’m not like most that say landing pages all the way but I’m certainly leaning in more to landing pages for many reasons. Full tracking and being able to change them on the fly without needing approval from the client.
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@Stephen Forde the day skype shut down was the last day i used it. i just installed the latest version of teams the other day and was like wtf, and it was all the old convos mostly of john making me cry into my rice bubbles with his honest advice. where are you based again dude, I'm over in the eastern suburbs. Yeah i think Google Ads is far more challenging, it still works, i've seen big matters come out of it and they prospects are generally easier to close for my clients but the first 3-4 months can be brutal. I'm at the point where i tell the prospect up front, and I'm also taking more of King Kong's attitude of charge hard and push a ballsy ad spend too. If you want to win, then you need a budget that makes sense. I'm not going to do personal injury on 2k per month etc., it's stupid. Tired of trying to make winners out of tiny spends. In saying that, even lower competition i've found slow, i remember a car detailer that when from like 300 cost per lead down to 30 cost per lead after landing page and moving through the 3-4 month period.
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