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The War Will Cross the Atlantic
If Israel were to cease to exist tomorrow, the war would not end. It would simply cross the Atlantic. I grew up in Iran. The regime forced us to chant "Death to America." Western observers often operate under a comfortable delusion. They believe that the hostility consuming the Middle East is merely a localized territorial dispute. They convince themselves that Israel is the provocateur, creating enemies where none previously existed. This is a fatal strategic error. To the revolutionary ideologies fueling the regime I lived under, the hierarchy of hatred is explicit. In their doctrine, Israel is merely the "Little Satan," a forward operating base. You, the United States, are the "Great Satan." You are the ultimate prize. The goal of these movements is not to liberate people. It is a revolutionary, expansionist theology that demands universal submission. Israel is not the source of their rage. It is simply the frontline. It acts as a kinetic buffer, absorbing the blows intended for Western civilization. When Americans call for the abandonment of their ally, they are not voting for peace. They are voting to remove the only obstacle standing between the enemy and their own shores. The enemy knows exactly who their main target is. It is time you knew it too.
The War Will Cross the Atlantic
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@Victoria David Clearly
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@Michael Goldman Thank you for answering! Guid me through: so one can argue that although they're supposedly more "politically-soft" they're still profit seekers in a rabid breeding ground? I didn't mention names, but I will now: for example ShoeOnHead, Metatron (educational channel turned political), Feminist Cat Lady Spinster? I just surprised me to see them say such abhorrent things, something they'd never say 10 years ago.
When Indigenous People Are Called Colonizers 
It takes a special kind of historical illiteracy to brand a people as "colonizers" while standing on the ruins of their ancestors' temples. When we strip away the modern political jargon and look at the forensic evidence, the accusation collapses under the weight of archaeology. As an Iranian, I look at the history of Judea and I do not see a dispute over real estate. I see a crime scene that looks painfully familiar. My own ancestors watched their Zoroastrian Fire Temples destroyed or buried beneath mosques. The method of Islamic expansion has always been building directly on top of the indigenous holy sites to demonstrate that the new power has crushed the old. This is exactly what happened in Jerusalem. The Dome of the Rock sits upon the Jewish Temple Mount not by accident, but by design. It was a deliberate act to assert dominance over the preceding faith. Ironically, by building on top of Jewish ruins, the conquerors permanently cemented the proof of who was there first. If you dig into the soil of this land, you find Hebrew coins, ancient scrolls, and the foundations of synagogues dating back three millennia. You do not find the artifacts of a lost "Palestinian" nation. For centuries, pilgrims and travelers recorded their encounters here. They wrote of Jews, Arabs, Turks, and Druze. Yet there is no record of a distinct "Palestinian" people prior to the twentieth century. That identity is a modern construct, appearing only after the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty.
When Indigenous People Are Called Colonizers 
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I heard some people push back on that claim, finding some here-and-there documents calling people "the people of Palestine" (before the 20th century)... That being said, they don't refer to what we call "Palestinians" but rather a nickname for people living in the area (Druze, Arabs, Jews, Ba'hai, etc.) like calling someone "Saharan" (from the Sahara). In fact, the reason we have nationalities in the first place is because of the spring of nations (1848-49) which came much later to the arabs themselves (1918~ after WW1).
Understanding the Stakes: Islamism, Israel, Ideology, and the West's Future
Abandoning Israel won’t bring peace. It ignores the conflict’s true nature: an ideological clash, not a land dispute. Remember the 1930s? When the world hesitated as Nazis annexed Austria and invaded Poland, catastrophe followed. Today’s appeasement would repeat that error. Withdraw support, and extremist ideologies surge. ISIS’s rise after Iraq’s collapse proved this. Islamists exploit vacuums to spread terror globally. Imagine an Israeli defeat. It wouldn’t end the threat; it would reignite the expansionist zeal of past Islamic empires, like the Ottomans at Vienna or the Umayyads in Spain. This isn’t speculation it’s their stated doctrine. The doctrine of Dar-ul-Islam and Dar-ul-Harb. Iran chants "Death to America" while targeting Israel as the "Little Satan." Remove that frontline, and the West becomes the main target. The thing is this conflict represents a broader civilizational struggle. Numerous secular and liberal Identitarian Muslims support the Muslim cause, demonstrating that this is a multifaceted issue. The West must recognize that Islam, with a history spanning 1,400 years, is entrenched and not going away easily. Understanding the adversary is crucial. The historical struggle against Islam has persisted since the faith's inception, as seen in pivotal moments such as the Battle of Tours, the Umayyad invasion of Iberia, and the Rashidun wars against the Byzantines. While there have been periods of coexistence between Muslims and non-Muslims, these times often came with significant limitations; non-Muslims often faced the jizya tax, which relegated them to a subordinate status, marking them as second-class citizens. This historical context reveals that coexistence was not equal but rather a negotiated subjugation. For the Muslim civilization to succeed, it would have to subsume or eliminate the West, including Europe, China, India, Russia, and even Africa, leveraging its central geographic position. Historically, the Muslim civilization thrived when non-Muslim powers were embroiled in internal conflict. The Sassanids and Byzantines weakened themselves through continuous wars, creating an opportunity for Muslim Arabs to expand their control through military force.
Understanding the Stakes: Islamism, Israel, Ideology, and the West's Future
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Am I right to say that the brave Iranians already defeated Islam in their hearts? The next step will be to tear Islamic Republic down? It seems more possible with each passing day... Maybe I'm wrong
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@Solar Flare Hell yeah!
Something I wrote Comparing U.S. and Israeli Jews
Bad times create strong people, strong people create good times, good times create weak people, weak people create bad times, bad times create weak people. 81% of all Jews alive today live in America or Israel. 39% of all Jews in America, and 42% of all Jews in Israel. American Jews, are mostly the decedents of the most poorest, most powerless Jews of Europe. They are the Jews whose ancestors first felt the effects of an increasingly genocidaly antisemitic Europe, and where the first Jews to reach the conclusion that they must flee. Most American Jews, are the decedents of Jews who came to America, before the 1925 immigration quota. Israeli Jews, are the last surviving Jews of three continents that have genocided or ethnically cleansed themselves of almost all of their Jews. Most Israeli Jews, 90% of Israeli Jews, are the descendants of refugees who had no where else to go, but to come together, fight together for their survival, and build a place in their indigenous land, where they could finally stop dying, when no such place was available to them. The bad times of the most poor, most powerless Jews in Europe before, during and in the immediate aftermath of WW1, this is what created the strong American Jews of Emma Lazarus and Anna Rosenberg, who created the single most strongest and thriving Jewish Diaspora in history. And these good times of American Jews, the most privileged Jewish Diaspora, this created some of the most profoundly naive, and weakest, Jews today. The good times of the wealthiest Jews of Europe, this created the naive Jews who were the last to understand they needed to flee, and then faced immigration quotas at every turn. Similarly the Jews of MEANA (which was historically less antisemitic than Europe) did not need to really start to flee, until all the Jews of Europe where desperately trying to flee but with no where to go. This most tragic moment of Jewish history, is what gave birth to the strongest Jews like Shimon Peres, in modern Jewish history, who rose up from the ashes of the Holocaust, declared their independence while under the fire of the Egyptian army hellbent on their annihilation, only to survive and emerge as the first sovereign Jews who were masters of their own fate for the first time in almost 2,000 years.
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@Jewish Samantha First of all - if you're still afraid of the spider, it seems the core issue is far deeper then antisemetism ;) Secondly, I'm not deligitimize what you or Haviv said (I like him a lot BTW he's truely balanced) I'm asking questions in a weird way that sounds like statements and I'm regretting it. And yes, if you refer to antizionist Jews you're 100% correct. However there are a lot of Jews that are not necessarily anti-israeli... just truely feel too-different than their Israeli counterpart. And that's ok, BTW, I understand it. I thought you were talking about them (they "criticize" Israel too)
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@Jewish Samantha Thank you, I thought so
The West Thinks It’s Fighting a Religion. It’s Not.
Growing up in Iran, I saw the "Great Satan" painted on the walls of my school. The regime depicted Israel as the Little Satan and America as the Big Satan. Most Westerners look at this imagery and see emotional hysteria or a simple clash of cultures. They are making a fatal mistake. The hatred is not emotional. It is structural. You must understand that politics and Islam are inseparable. It is not just a religion. It is a World Order. It is a complete legal, political, and social framework intended to govern the earth. For that new order to rise, the current one must fall. The current global order is maintained by American power. The US military is the physical infrastructure holding the modern world together. This is why the regime uses the term "Great Satan." It is not just an insult. It is a precise technical definition. To the Islamist strategist, America is the primary blocker. It is the concrete wall stopping the establishment of global Islamic rule. They don't hate the West because of its freedoms or its culture. They hate it because it occupies the space they believe belongs to them. They are not wrong in their assessment. As long as the American order stands, their vision cannot exist. It is a zero-sum game.
The West Thinks It’s Fighting a Religion. It’s Not.
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