yeah I just finished a long one - get after it!

👤 Who I am: Ryan "RyMac" McKinney, Middle of Nowhere, NW KS. Marine Corps vet (2006-2010). 🛠️ What I actually do: I've sold for 25 years. Started with Cutco knives at 15, sold $1M+/yr on webinars from 2011 to 2016, highlighted on Entrepreneur on Fire, back in 21' fixed a conversational AI company's 64-day sales cycle into a single 25-minute call (5K+$2500 offer), that lead to building patientacquistion.ai (not a partner anymore but used conversational ai to cold text chiropractors, schedule, and close them on the same system that booked them via cold outreach, it was beautiful) and more recently figured out how to close a $30K phone offer at roughly 50% for $313K collected in the first 30 days for a real estate company. -software -insurance -credit card processing -re/mortgage -construction -legal -medical You name it, I've probably built a system that closed deal in it. Frameworks fit into any niche, it's just the application of it that molds. I see the pipeline from marketing to sales and install a sales framework that turns just about anything into a 1 call close (none of this follow up in 2 weeks crap flies). It's my fun thing to figure out. Along the way I ran agencies and got real tired of paying rent on every tool my business stood on. 🤖 What I'm building with AI right now: I'm not a developer. I'm the guy who used to pay developers six figures to build my ideas. I had the first SEO app built inside of Google Hangouts as an example (when they were hangouts). I haven't worked in a couple of years, enjoying the mountains, my 5th wheel and my dogs...oh, and the quietness but last month peeked my head up to see what was going on. I was bored. About 25 days ago, I sat down with Claude Code, and I still haven't paid my first monthly bill yet but... I have a production white-label CRM platform running on my own accounts: pipelines, automations, AI chat and voice agents, booking, email. Just finished the full funnel this week at allodra.ai (VSL, cost analyzer, email machine, all on owned infrastructure) if you want to see what a non-dev can ship with this stuff in under 30 days.

Too buy or to build, that is the question lol years ago I was a buyer, or pay to have it built...with how tech is now, I am the builder with Ai doing the grunt work...so: Form on my site posts straight into my own CRM. The contact gets created and tagged automatically with where they came from (UTM source, campaign, all of it), Resend sends the lead magnet email instantly, and a queued sequence follows up after that on a delay. Database I use is Firestore, the delayed sends run through a queue called QStash, whole thing lives on Vercel. My monthly cost for all of it is basically hosting. For your situation though, my take, and again I am still learning but: you don't need Supabase for this, that's a database looking for a problem at your stage. The piece you actually felt drawn to is Resend (I use too), and your instinct is right, it's excellent. If you already have a site you control, a form that hits Resend plus a place to store the emails is a weekends worth of work, and then the list is yours forever, tagged however you want. If you'd rather not build at all, beehiiv is probably one of the better rental options for what you described. But everything you listed (form, tag, deliver, sequence) is the simplest possible version of owning your own pipe...let us know how goes!

@Darren Soares hey man I have only been at this a few weeks, I am coming due on my first claude monthly payment lol I'm not technical at all but I am stubborn, so just knee-deep in it! One thing that is cool, is there is never a clear cut "this is the way" - it's almost like everyone is a painter, and painting their own canvas. The overwhelm of tech stack stuff available is overwhelming haha but I've been finding a groove, learning, building, breaking, and rinse and repeat for 14-18 hour days for the past 25 ish days or so lol

Been building on this exact thesis for a while now, different direction (mines closed source) but the same bet: the people who own their stack stop paying the growth tax. Reading this comment section, the market's clearly done renting. Question from a bit further down the same road, because this is where it got hard for me (it's all been hard and huge learning curve because I don't have a programmer/dev background, I always paid a bunch of money to have the thing built): Multi-tenant. Once real client locations share one deployment, isolation stops being a schema column and becomes a security problem — every query, every inbound webhook, every AI reply has to prove which tenant it belongs to before it touches data. How's OpenLevel enforcing that today...row-level in Postgres, per-tenant databases, or middleware checks? Asking because I got this wrong once before I got it right, happy to share what broke. We should jam though, for sure! And I've always said 2 (B)Ryans don't make a wrong.