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What's your mindset around model releases? -- Grok 4.6
Grok 4.6 came in one point behind Fable 5 and level with Sol, at about a third of the price. I have read the numbers, and I still cannot tell you whether it would change a single thing about my week. - The gap is small - one point on the index, and agentic scores close enough to Fable 5 to be statistically indistinguishable. - The price is not - two dollars in and six out per million, against five and twenty five for Opus 5, and roughly half the turns on long tasks. - The benchmarks disagree with each other - 88 percent on one terminal benchmark and 26 percent on the next version of it. Most models now do the same things with minor gains between them, and the variation in what you get out of one is dominated by how you use it rather than by which one it is. Your orchestration, your context, the way you write. That is a bigger lever than any two point difference, and it is the one that is actually yours. I still keep on top of releases, but for the landscape rather than the decision. I thought about signing up to Grok to try it and could not find a reason beyond curiosity. What is your approach when one of these lands?
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One topic that never comes up but is important. Only Grok and Google have models and infra. OpenAI & Anthropic only have models.
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A few items come to mind: If you own your infra an extra token or two relates to energy + depreciation. If you don't, it relies on the hyperscaler's markup. Training bottle necks can be quickly fixed by changing the stack. If you don't, you have to file a ticket and wait. Reliability when under pressure. A demand spike or cloud hiccup and the infra guys control the capacity. The pure model guys inherit their landlord's priorities.
Something is coming 👀
Been heads down on something the past month plus. Not a lesson, nor a Tea round but more like the layer under all of it. Kept seeing the same thing in comments and onboarding calls: People not knowing where to even start or if something’s already been covered somewhere in here. We're working on fixing that. Not ready to put it in your hands yet.
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Last Call for guesses....
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@Jim Tyndall Mind reader....lol
🤯 Something in here has been broken for a while
Alright, here’s what we’ve been sitting on. We’re past 2,700 posts and 40+ lessons now. The number one thing we hear on Wednesday onboarding calls is some version of: “Where do I start?” “What should I do next?” “Did someone already answer this?” Fair. There’s a lot in here. So we’re bringing in an AI trained on the Clief Notes library. Every lesson. Every Afternoon Tea. Every High Tea drop. It actually knows what’s in here. 🧭 Tell it what you’re stuck on, and it points you toward the right lesson or drop. 🗺️ Tell it where you’re at, and it can help you figure out what to focus on instead of just telling everyone to “start at The Foundation.” 🔍 Ask it about something we’ve covered before, and it helps you find it without scrolling through months of content. And when we launch it, everyone gets access. More on that very soon.
How important do you think a traditional visual interface will still be in the future?
Do we still need dashboards, menus, buttons and complex applications? Or will the AI itself become the main interface, with a simple visual layer only for things like monitoring, approvals and seeing what’s happening? I’m curious how you see this evolving over the next 5 years. Will we still use software, or will we mostly talk to software? @David McDermott @Ari Evergreen @Jake Van Clief @David Vogel @Matthew Creamer @Bas Rosario
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@Ari Evergreen Like the way you think! So far one of the best OOB experiences.
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@Eytan Levy I think the better question is: Who authors the interface and where are you standing when it acts? The shift is not the conversation replacing pixels. The UI stops being designed in advance and instead is generated at runtime.
I don't understand ICM
I've been part of this community and see all of the use cases and projects. I've tried to implement, but the truth is I don't understand it enough to use it successfully. I've been more frustrated than anything. To see what's possible from the community, but not be able to execute it is driving me crazy. What am I missing? Can someone help? How did you learn and master it? What was your process? I've tried on my own and I'm tired of failing.
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@Daniel Truelove Jr. Silly question, I know, but have you at least watched this? It's also in the Foundations Classroom. (Edited: Added another source)
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Unreliable AI results, hallucinations, and high token costs drain resources. I help businesses plan workflows for accurate, efficient outcomes.

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