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Advyzon v. Black Diamond v. Tamarac
Greetings all! Our firm ($317M / 386 HHs) is considering a move away from Orion for a couple reasons: 1. This 8.9% upcharge for "out of pocket third-party expenses"; and 2. The platform is overkill for us - we use their Billing, Reports, Client Portal, Compliance, and Queries; and not much else. We use iRebal and Schwab Advisor Center for Rebalancing and Trading. In our due diligence, all three of Advyzon, BD, and Tamarac have seemingly better versions of all of those services. The big differences left are pricing and ease-of-use. Advyzon can replace both Orion and Redtail with their all-in-one platform - but will it be robust enough for us as we grow? (10%-15% per year) Black Diamond Reporting is very comprehensive and sleek, but we don't want to go back to Salesforce CRM. Tamarac has it all, but feels very similar to Orion and their CRM is more costly than Redtail. Will they be overkill for us as well? Is there anyone who has done this research already and made the move from Orion to any three of these other options? I'd like to know if you're satisfied with the move and if the transition was smooth. TIA!
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New comment 20d ago
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What I am about to say is not an attempt to discourage you from making the change. It is a friendly cautionary write. I’ve heard and experienced stories of changes, whether technologies, custodians, etc… only to find out the change made it worse and not as expected. It is always harder and more expensive than communicated during the demo/prospecting phase. Self-disclosure – I am no longer working in an RIA. I was formerly with a firm ($600M+/300 HHS) but merged with a bigger firm. Here is some advice I received and now recommend: 1. Identify all your pain points and solutions you are seeking 2. Know the direction of your future firm growth. Do you intend to grow to a $1B+ firm, and what will you need to get you there? Merger is a real thing in the RIA world. It would be unfortunate to make the switch only to find out the firm has the potential to merge – where you don’t have a say in the technology offerings 3. Post your questions also in HIFON – ask for those that have gone before 4. Know your criteria and their priority. For us, it was: 1. Integration 2. Training and client support 3. Cost. When we got clear of the order of importance, the final selection became clear to us. The team was running in circles with the vetting process until then. Some folks were “talked into” with another shining object (typically the advisors). 5. Utilize your relationship with Schwab and ask them to connect to their technology team. I remember they had an expansive technology assessment in an Excel worksheet to help firms with the selection process. I’ve heard great things about Advyzon. These tech firms also have the chance of mergers. Look what happened to Redtail, Riskalyze, etc. The portfolio management system is a core system. Switching the system will impact the team and clients. Think about the Operational Experience and CX. I recently moved my portfolio after my exit from the firm and industry. This advisor uses RightCapital. I am not endorsing it (I don’t have professional experience with the system), but I want to mention it.
What would you do differently?
For those who either founded their RIA or were one of the earliest employees, looking back, what do you wish you would have done differently (operationally) in the early days? I just joined an awesome new firm that is only about a year old so there is a lot of opportunity to build a strong operational foundation to avoid issues down the road. I've got my own ideas about what to work on, but I'd love to hear your best advice as well! Thanks!
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New comment Apr 12
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The industry is different than it was 20 years ago, and it is now ever-evolving. Leverage technology to your benefit. CRM is core to any practice, whether solo or a firm of 500. Prioritize your criteria when assessing what systems to use. For example, If money is the top consideration vs. integration - the system you end up with will be different. Before any significant implementation, reach out like you are now and ask for experiences and best practices. It is always more complex and more complicated than any demo from vendors.
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Bonnie Maingault
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