Sep 10 (edited) • 💬 Discussion
SEPTEMBER 10 2025 INSIDES OF THE CALL
AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY:
Here's a detailed timeline and cast of characters based on the provided source:
Timeline of Main Events
- Jan begins working hard on the Agent Zero project as its founder/creator.
September 10 (Current Year):
- Impromptu Google Meet Meeting (24 mins):
- Opening Remarks (0:00 - 0:24): Joshua Cunningham opens the meeting, asking for questions, insights, and updates, particularly regarding upcoming Agent Zero 9.6 features like the memory dashboard and parallel tasks.
- Julio's Installation Issues & Questions (0:24 - 4:22): Julio discusses his struggles installing Agent Zero on a desktop using Perplexity Pro for guidance. He encounters configuration errors, specifically with OpenRouter and OpenAI API keys/models (GPT-4.1 vs. GPT-5). He also asks about specializing Agent Zero by changing "font" in a file, referencing a CloudCod repository with sub-agents and prompts.
- API Key & Model Troubleshooting (2:20 - 3:16): Stirling Goetz, Theo Wilson, and RealEclypso provide advice to Julio, suggesting he check OpenRouter credits, model names, and ensure he's using the correct API key for OpenRouter, or alternatively, setting OpenAI as the provider directly.
- Customizing Agent Zero Prompts (4:22 - 7:46): RealEclypso, Joshua Cunningham, and Vanja Bunjevac explain to Julio how to customize Agent Zero by creating new agent profiles in the agents directory and copying/modifying prompts from the default prompts directory. Vanja cautions against directly using CloudCod prompts as Agent Zero's system is different.
- Using MCPs (Multi-Capability Providers) (7:46 - 9:59): Julio asks about integrating MCPs as an assistant. Vanja explains that MCPs usually work "out of the box" if their tools are well-described. However, she notes that some MCPs (like BigQuery's toolbox or GitHub's tool) can consume a large number of tokens (e.g., 100,000 for BigQuery, 45,000 for GitHub), making it more efficient to develop custom tools for specific needs.
- Deploying Agent Zero on a VPS (10:00 - 11:46): Julio inquires about using Agent Zero on a Hostinger VPS via Easy Panel, not Docker. Chadwick Jones shares his experience successfully setting up Agent Zero on a Hostinger VPS with Docker pre-loaded, mentioning he upgraded RAM and used a URL. He offers to help Julio with the setup.
- Call Wrap-up & Community Demo Solicitation (11:56 - 15:03): Joshua Cunningham thanks attendees, particularly Vanja, and solicits community call demos, inspired by Stirling's pen testing agent demo. Stirling notes the ease of creating such demos. Joshua considers adding a "demo" category to the School platform. He expresses satisfaction that the call ran smoothly while Jan is on vacation, viewing it as a sign of automation and project success.
- Alessandro's Project Involvement (15:03 - 15:43): Joshua asks Alessandro about his start date on Agent Zero. Alessandro confirms he joined in August (presumably 2023) but had waited due to his inexperience with open-source contributions.
- "Gold Nuggets" & Prompting Tips (15:59 - 17:48): RealEclypso shares a "rule of thumb" for touching prompts: when the Kimi K2 code execution tool has errors due to missing runtime arguments, prompt Kimi to remember them. Stirling adds that his code execution tools often time out at 15 seconds and he prompts for longer waits, expressing interest in a potential PR for native longer waits.
- Knowledge Consolidation & Resources (17:48 - 20:30): Joshua emphasizes the need to consolidate valuable insights ("gold nuggets") from calls into a knowledge graph or "wisdom" repository. Chadwick mentions a YouTube transcript MCP server. Vanja suggests transcribing calls for documentation, referencing how Stirling's temperature/top P/top K advice helped her prompting. Chadwick recommends IndieDevDan's YouTube channel for prompting and context engineering.
- MCP Serena Recommendation (20:52 - 22:16): Vanja highly recommends "MCP Serena" (created by some German developers) for development tasks, especially when used with DeepWiki for questions. Chadwick recalls hearing about it from "Cole Median." Vanja types "MCP Serena" in the chat.
- Final Remarks & Appreciation (22:16 - 23:32): Joshua concludes the call, calling it one of the best. He thanks the team, Stirling for his demo, and everyone for their contributions and questions, emphasizing patience within the community.
Cast of Characters
- Joshua Cunningham: Facilitator of the Google Meet meeting. He guides the discussion, solicits questions, wraps up segments, and expresses interest in organizing community content and demos. He is enthusiastic about the project's progress and the community's engagement.
- Julio (jlpowerai@gmail.com): An active participant in the call, new to Agent Zero development. He asks several detailed questions about installation, API key configuration, agent customization, MCP integration, and VPS deployment, representing a beginner's perspective.
- Stirling Goetz: An experienced "power user" of Agent Zero, particularly known for his pen-testing agent demo. He provides technical advice on API keys, models, and code execution tools. He also suggests creating a "demo" category for community contributions.
- RealEclypso (Alessandro): A member of the Agent Zero project team who joined in August (likely 2023). He contributes to troubleshooting, provides advice on customizing agent prompts, and shares a "gold nugget" about handling runtime arguments in the code execution tool. He expresses that joining the open-source project was a new and "pretty awesome" experience for him.
- Theo Wilson: A participant who briefly offers a tip on API keys.
- Vanja Bunjevac: An experienced developer working with development agents like Cloud Code. She provides detailed guidance on customizing Agent Zero prompts, explains the nuances of using MCPs, and highly recommends "MCP Serena" for development tasks. She also emphasizes the value of transcribing community calls for documentation.
- Chadwick Jones: A participant who successfully deployed Agent Zero on a Hostinger VPS. He shares his experience and offers to help Julio with VPS setup. He also recommends IndieDevDan's YouTube channel for prompting tips.
- Jan: The founder and creator of the Agent Zero project, who has been working on it since around March 2024. He is mentioned as being on vacation during the call, and Joshua praises the team for successfully running the meeting in his absence.
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