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PSA if you got rekt on Friday, your algos are too correlated
Let me know if this sounds familiar: 1. You had multiple algos all lose money yesterday. 2. All of your stocks and crypto all lost money yesterday. 3. Your overall portfolio was red yesterday, and it wasn't just a small loss, it was magnitudes larger than what you normally experience when it comes to drawdowns. These are symptoms of the root problem that your portfolio is too correlated. When you have multiple algos that are too correlated to the underlying market they trade Then you expose yourself to large single day losses like yesterday. Correlated market groups: 1. S&P, Nasdaq, Dow Jones, Russell 2. Bitcoin, Ethereum 3. Gold, Silver, Platinum, Copper 4. Oil, Gasoline, Nat Gas These groups of markets are all similar, right? Now, what happens is when there's a black swan event like the one that we had yesterday, all of the correlations line up, so all of these markets tend to fall at the same time during a black swan event. Now if you're just buying and holding assets like AI stocks, tech stocks, S&P 500, NASDAQ, these are all in the same group. So, of course you're going to be exposed to correlation risk if you only invest in one asset group. One way we can diversify risk is to trade different industries like: metals, energy, crypto, indexes, currencies. But as you saw yesterday, when there is a black swan event, when there's panic selling that occurs, even assets in different industries can become correlated. So how we diversify further is by trading different directions: Both Long & Short Yesterday, we had profits from GC going long and ES going short. And sometimes even this is not enough, so we have to diversify even further by varying the bar type that we trade. Our Zeus strategy trades gold to the long side on Kase bars, which is a volatility-based bar. So the edge on an exotic bar type is going to be very alien to just a traditional time-based bar, for example. And then our final line of defense, and perhaps the best tool in our arsenal, is to use different strategy types.
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@Kevin Gong Wouod love to see the portfolio hes running if its public?
2025 September Performance: -5.81%
Starting Balance: $300k Net PNL: - -$17.43k - -5.81% Date Range: - 9/1/25 to 9/30/25 Portfolio: B (concierge tier 16 algos) Note: September is the weakness month for this portfolio from a seasonality perspective. Q4 is the strongest. PS. I share these updates to normalize transparency in the trading industry. If you'd like to join me on this mission. Share your 3rd party verified trading performance!
2025 September Performance: -5.81%
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i live for these updates i think it makes this community very strong and reliable
9/22/25: +$3445 open PNL
+$395 realized PNL Q4 is heating up! πŸ”₯
9/22/25: +$3445 open PNL
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Lfgg πŸ”₯
No Orders
Anyone else not have any orders since Market open last night?
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@Kevin Gong yeah I'm not sure of the risk management marks has been going up, but for some reason, I'll go taking a hit on these little pullbacks
1 like β€’ Sep 11
Makes total sense i get it thank youπŸ’ͺ🏼πŸ’ͺ🏼
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