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17 contributions to 4D Copywriting Community
QUESTION ❓
For a b2b like manufacturer, should the sales page be prioritise concise, attention-grabbing copy or longer, detailed information for credibility. Im confused as most famous manufacturer have these long detailed sales page. Appreciate it🔥
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Here are 3 professional comments for you: Comment 1: Such a genuinely important B2B copywriting question! Manufacturers typically benefit from longer detailed pages because multiple decision makers including engineers, procurement teams, and executives all need different information before approving significant purchasing decisions
Should U start outreaching yet?
👉 Question: From @ajnur_etm “Should I start outreaching only with knowing how to write an email or should I wait to learn every copywriting skill like: writing emails, writing and automatizing email sequences, making sales funnels, making sales and landing pages. I will appreciate if you can give me some advice!” 👉 Answer: Bro, you should start outreach ASAP… … Before you can even write really good copy. The thing is, you’ll learn how to write good copy on the job. While you’re outreaching, and creating free value, you’re getting your copy reps. Landing a client can take a while, so it’s important to start as early as possible and increase your chances. Now that you’ve read this message, you’ve got 24 hours to send your first 10 outreaches. And @everyone… the same applies to you. Don’t take your foot off the gas. 4D out 🫡
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This is exactly the advice most beginners desperately need to hear! Waiting until every skill is perfectly polished before starting outreach is just sophisticated procrastination. Real copywriting mastery comes from doing the actual work with real clients
Consistency (alone) won’t get you clients
If you're sending 20 DMs per day but still getting no results. Then keep reading. Because chances are, it's not because your outreach sucks. It's because you don't have an outreach system that'll actually land you your next client. See... The competition in copywriting has never been this high. Thousands of other copywriters are flooding the same prospects' DMs as you. Good copywriters and bad ones. And the more competition there is, the better your strategy needs to be to stand out and land your first high-paying client. That's why outreach isn't just about consistency anymore. It's a whole skill you need to master if you want to build a solid copywriting career. And I'm breaking down the 8-step outreach system I developed after analyzing thousands of DMs and outreach strategies from students who landed clients. Watch it below. https://youtu.be/c_TUyPjq5NY?si=I5VjABdJtKOGR5YI You've heard of some of these principles before, but others are completely new... and I'm sharing them for the first time. So make sure you stick to the end, save the video, and apply every step thoroughly. To your success, Tyson 4D P.S. Most copywriters focus on volume. Winners focus on systems. Be a winner.
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Strong reminder that consistency alone isn’t enough. A structured outreach system is what actually helps you stand out and convert prospects in a competitive market
Story time about my life
Hello everyone i am 15 old from Croatia.. i discovered copywriting a while ago but didnt started.. i am new about this and i am like baby learnig things about all of online entrepreneurship and i am intrested in copywriting as my first niche.. reson why i want to start is because i want to retire my parents as i get older and don't want to work for someone and be mentaly closed person like people surrened with me and i want to start laying A1 category for bike (125cc or 11kW) and to buy bike.. so if someone want to help me you can dm me privatly on skool or discord: mateocash010.. have a great day guys and Jesus bless ❤️
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What an inspiring story! Starting your entrepreneurship journey at 15 with such clear goals and strong family motivation shows incredible maturity and determination. Keep pushing forward! 💪
i wasted weeks sending trash emails. here's what actually changed things.
So before u even read anything, I want to make this clear. It's not an email and it's not perfect, just some tips for my beginner buddies... Okay, so when i first joined this community i was totally lost. Like, genuinely had no idea what i was doing. So I did what every beginner does. opened ChatGPT, typed something like "write me a cold email for a copywriting client" and copy pasted whatever it gave me. It sounded like a LinkedIn bio was written. Then I threw it in the review channel and got the same 3 pieces of feedback every single time: "too long." "Add more curiosity." "make it shorter." So I made it shorter. Then shorter again, like an idiot. Then so short and so "curious" it genuinely made zero sense (And i know you are doing the same). Like I sent emails that were basically riddles. Nobody knew what i was offering or why they should even care. And somewhere in that process i started asking myself... is under 180 words actually backed by anything, or did someone just say it and everyone started repeating it? Because I had been reading Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene Schwartz. And if you don't know who that is, he wrote copy for brands like Rolls Royce. He was one of the greatest direct response copywriters who ever lived. And most people who claim to be seniors and rate others' emails don't even know him. Anyways, Schwartz says longer copy almost always beats short copy. not because long is better. But because the copy needs to be as long as the job requires. If your reader is cold and doesn't know you, you cannot close them in 180 words. You haven't built enough. You haven't earned enough trust for them to take action. So forget the 180 word rule. seriously. Emails aren't just sales tools. They're connection tools. and connection takes more than a tweet. But here's the thing that changed everything for me even more than that. I realized my copy wasn't even the real problem. My market was. Because it doesn't matter how good your email is if you're sending it to the wrong person.
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This highlights a critical insight—effective outreach isn’t about rigid word counts but understanding your audience and building genuine connection before pitching
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