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What does your Facebook or Google Ads setup actually look like?
I’m looking for real-world input from owner-operators who are consistently generating qualified land-clearing, forestry-mulching, vegetation-management, or excavation leads. I own Archon Land Management in central Alabama. Our website-form campaigns worked consistently for several weeks, but then the leads stopped. I left the campaigns untouched for another three weeks, so this wasn’t caused by constant editing or repeatedly resetting the learning phase. I’ve now spent approximately $3,400 on Facebook ads. We’re getting both low lead volume and poor lead quality. The answer may be our offer, creative, targeting, landing page, campaign structure, or something else—but I want to compare our setup against accounts producing real jobs. If Facebook or Google Ads are currently working for you, would you share any of the following? Facebook Ads 1. Are you using Facebook instant forms, Messenger, calls, or a website form? 2. Which campaign objective and optimization event are you using? 3. Are your audiences broad, Advantage+, interest-based, or retargeting? 4. What types of ads are working—before-and-after photos, job videos, owner-on-camera videos, equipment footage, testimonials, or offers? 5. What is your daily budget and approximate cost per qualified lead? 6. How many of those leads become estimates and paying jobs? Google Ads 1. Are you using Search, Local Services Ads, Performance Max, or something else? 2. Do you send traffic to your homepage, service pages, or a dedicated landing page? 3. Are you using exact, phrase, or broad-match keywords? 4. What bidding strategy and primary conversion action are you using? 5. What is your approximate cost per qualified lead and booked job? 6. Which services and search terms produce your best customers? I’m especially interested in what separates a qualified opportunity from an inexpensive form submission. I don’t want to increase the lead count by making the form easier if that only creates more price shoppers, tiny projects, spam, and unreachable contacts.
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@Scott Rossman Scott, I actually like how you’re looking at this because cost per lead can be one of the most misleading numbers in this industry. A $25 lead that wants $500 worth of work isn’t necessarily better than a $100 lead for a $10K clearing project. Before putting another $3,400 into ads, I’d look hard at the entire path after someone clicks. For land clearing/mulching, I like a multi-step form that does some of the qualifying before you ever talk to them. I’d want to know: 1. What are they trying to accomplish? Clearing for a homesite, pasture reclamation, trails, development, ROW, vegetation management, etc. 2. Approximate acreage/project size + terrain/access. 3. Property/parcel address. This is a big one. Now you can look at satellite imagery before spending time on the lead. 4. Contact information + photos if possible. I’d rather create a little friction and get fewer qualified opportunities than make the form incredibly easy and celebrate a cheap CPL. I’d also look at the landing page itself. Someone coming from an ad for forestry mulching shouldn’t necessarily land on a generic homepage with 10 different services. Continue the exact conversation from the ad: their problem → your process → proof → desired outcome → qualification. Then I’d track much farther than Facebook’s CPL: Ad → Lead → Contacted → Qualified → Estimate → Sold → Actual Revenue That’s where you can start finding the real problem. Maybe Facebook is generating garbage. But you could also discover one creative generates fewer leads but dramatically larger jobs, or that a particular service has a much higher close rate. One other thing I see owner-operators overlook: answering the phone and speed-to-lead. You can have a great campaign and still lose the opportunity while you’re on equipment. I’m a big believer in immediate text follow-up plus a 24/7 receptionist that can actually answer, gather the project information and keep the lead moving when you can’t.
First Ad
I just launched my first ad, looking for any feedback and criticism. Starting at $20/day and have 5 real leads so far in 36 hours. Those leads all came from the first 12 hours and no more have came in for the remainder of time it has been running. Has this happened to anyone else?
First Ad
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Rennan, 5 real leads in your first 36 hours at $20/day is actually a pretty good start. I wouldn’t start changing everything just because they all came in during the first 12 hours. Ads don’t always deliver leads evenly throughout the day. I’d give it some time and start paying attention to cost per lead AND lead quality, not just how many hours have passed without another one. The bigger thing I’d work on right now is what happens after someone becomes a lead. If you’re paying to make the phone ring or get someone to fill out a form, speed matters. I’d have an automatic text go out immediately, and if they call while you’re running equipment or on another job, make sure somebody—or a 24/7 receptionist system—can answer. A lead you already paid for that goes unanswered is where advertising gets expensive fast. I’d also qualify them before spending time driving around giving estimates. I like a simple 4-step form for land-management companies: 1. What do you need done? 2. Approximate acreage/size + terrain/access conditions 3. Property/parcel address 4. Contact info + ability to upload photos That address is especially valuable because you can look at satellite imagery before you ever drive out there and have a much better idea of what you’re dealing with. Then keep track of the whole funnel: Ad → Lead → Contacted → Qualified → Estimate → Sold → Revenue Because eventually “I got 20 leads” doesn't tell you much. I’d rather have 8 qualified leads that produce $15K in work than 30 people asking how much it costs to clear their backyard. And definitely save the ad/creative that produced those first leads. Start testing new versions against it instead of constantly replacing what’s working. I help land-management businesses build the lead capture, follow-up and 24/7 receptionist side of this stuff, so if the ads keep producing and you want some ideas for the system behind them, I’m happy to help.
Engineered Land Solutions LLC
Busy week, so figured I'd actually write it up instead of just telling myself I would. Filed the LLC myself this week. Went straight through NH's site instead of LegalZoom, saved the markup for basically the same paperwork, done in an afternoon. EIN came back from the IRS the next day. Also finally sat down and ran a real trademark search on the name instead of just assuming it was fine. Nothing conflicting showed up, so that's closed out. Applied for a business bank account too (still pending review) and got Google Workspace set up with a real business email off my personal Gmail. Small thing but it'd been bugging me. Also got real equipment quotes this week instead of just running numbers in a spreadsheet. Hit Bobcat, Cat, Deere, and the local Takeuchi dealer. Bobcat's the clear leader right now on a skid steer and mulcher package. Cat was the most put-together dealer of the bunch, best warranty and best service commitment, but $34k to $59k more for a comparable setup. Deere couldn't quote me on the spot. The Takeuchi dealer's out, didn't have the road service or dealer support I'd need. Nothing's bought yet, but I've got real numbers to compare now instead of guessing. Stopped at a local trailer dealer while I was out there too. Got a contact and I'm feeling good about buying through them when the time comes. Truck's on the radar for December. (F450/F550, 2022+) Also got a real insurance quote range back and I'm comparing two CPA candidates before I actually need one. I know all of this is really far out from actually cutting brush for money. April 2027 launch is the planned date. But I'd rather have the boring stuff, LLC, EIN, insurance, equipment relationships, locked down now than scrambling to figure it out once things get busy. On the personal side: My wife and I had our first son on September 5th. Life's been a little crazy since. But being off my regular job right now has actually been a huge blessing, it's meant we could go do these dealer visits together during a normal workday instead of squeezing it into evenings and weekends. Plus, who doesn't love showing their 8-day old equipment?
Engineered Land Solutions LLC
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Christopher, first off, congrats on your son! And I actually think you’re doing this the right way. You’re handling a lot of the boring stuff now that becomes a nightmare if you wait until the phone starts ringing. One thing I’d add to your pre-launch checklist is start building your digital footprint now instead of waiting until April. You have roughly 6 months before launch, which gives you something most new land-clearing companies don’t have: time. I’d get a simple, well-built website up early and start building out the services you eventually want to be known for. Not just a page that says “forestry mulching and land clearing,” but individual pages explaining each service, your process, the equipment/methods involved, the problems it solves, and what the property looks like when you’re finished. Then start building out the areas you plan to serve in New Hampshire. Each important market can eventually have its own useful page talking about the service, local property/terrain conditions, access considerations, common clearing needs, nearby towns you serve, FAQs, etc. I’d also start documenting this entire journey. Dealer visits. Equipment comparisons. Why you chose one machine over another. Learning the business. Preparing for launch. Eventually the first jobs, before/afters and customer questions. That gives you months of legitimate content instead of launching in April with a brand-new website, empty social pages and zero history. Once you’re eligible for a Google Business Profile, I’d make sure your website, GBP, business information, services and service areas all reinforce each other. Then start getting reviews as soon as you're actually serving customers. By April, the goal shouldn’t be “Okay, now I need to start marketing.” It should be “We’re officially open, and everything is already built to support it.” I work with land-management businesses on this side of things, so if you ever want another set of eyes on the website/local visibility piece while you’re building everything out, I’d be happy to help. You have a nice runway right now to do it correctly instead of rushing it later.
Scaling
Hello everyone. First post here. I’ve been following along for a few months and have learned a lot from this group. I started a land clearing company about 4.5 months ago. I’ve kept my head down, invested heavily in marketing, focused on customer service, and by my 5-month mark I’ll have closed a little over $300k in work. It’s gone better than I prayed for and feel extremely blessed with the opportunity. Right now it’s still just me. I’ve moved away from small mulching jobs and am taking on larger land clearing projects that involve grubbing, hauling, and subcontracting a horizontal grinder. I’m at the point where I’m trying to figure out the smartest way to scale. My biggest challenge is that the company I sub to grind is also one of the largest land clearing/logging companies in my area. They have multiple high-horsepower mulchers, stump grinders, excavators with grapple saws and shears, a CBI 6800 grinder, skidders, and are adding a feller buncher. They also have a dirt work division helping fund their growth. I’m not looking to become them overnight, but I do want to continue growing into larger commercial land clearing projects. For those of you who have successfully scaled, how did you compete against companies with significantly more equipment and capital? Did you stay focused on a niche, gradually build your fleet, partner with others, or take a different approach? If you were in my position today, what would you do over the next 3–5 years?
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@Corey Sampson Corey, you’ve obviously figured out how to generate work, so I took a quick look at your online presence and noticed a couple things I’d fix before pouring even more money into marketing. First — your website isn’t connected to your Google Business Profile. I’d fix that ASAP. That connection is an important consistency and trust signal, and you want Google to clearly understand that your website, GBP, services, location and business entity all belong together. Your website itself has a good foundation and I like that you’re already publishing blogs. Where I think you have a bigger opportunity is your service pages. They’re a little thin right now. For land clearing, I’d make those pages much more specific to what the customer is actually dealing with in your area. Talk about the local land and conditions you encounter — sand, clay, rock, heavy vegetation, drainage, access issues, etc. Explain your process, what happens after someone contacts you, how you make the project easier, what equipment/method you use and, most importantly, what their property looks like when you’re finished. Sell the desired outcome, not just “we offer land clearing.” The other big thing I noticed is you’re missing individual service-area pages. If you want Google and AI search engines recommending you when someone asks something like “Who does commercial land clearing near [city]?”, you need to give them strong geographic signals connecting your services with the communities you actually serve. I’d build individual pages for your important markets and make them useful — not just swap the city name. Include the services you perform there, local land/terrain considerations, projects in that area, FAQs, photos when available, and even nearby communities/neighborhoods you serve from that location. Your blogs are great for building informational authority. I’d just put more emphasis now on building out the commercial-intent service + location side of the website, because that’s much closer to the searches that can turn into actual projects.
Starting out full time and would love advice!
Hey everybody! I'm Jordan and I own Pax Land Works here in Tulsa Oklahoma. I started doing this stuff on the side when I had a full time job but was recently let go and now am going hard at it full time. I don't own any equipment yet and am just renting but would absolutely love some advice on how to pursue this the right way and get to that $10-$20k a month range. I've been doing this stuff and operating for 11 years so I have that experience under my belt, just not a lot of business experience. I have some videos I'm going to be posting on all my socials and have some ads in the works but if anyone has been in my position and could throw me some advice, I would love it. Thank you. PS I'll post some pics in the comments of this because I don't have the pics on this computer.. lol.
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Jordan, one thing I’d be careful about is chasing that $10K–$20K number before you build the system that’s going to get you there consistently. Since you’re renting equipment right now, I’d focus heavily on profitable jobs and keeping your schedule tight. Know your rental cost, travel time, fuel, disposal, labor, and what you actually need to make on a job before saying yes to everything. On the marketing side, those videos are a great start. I’d also make sure you’re building your Google presence, reviews, website, and local service pages at the same time. Social and ads can generate leads quickly, but Google and your website are what start building long-term visibility so you’re not completely dependent on paying for every opportunity. I’d also get a good lead system in place early. Have people tell you what they need done, acreage/size, property address, terrain/access, and upload photos before you spend time driving out for a quote. You can even check satellite imagery beforehand. That becomes really important once the phone starts ringing. And whatever you do, don’t miss the calls you worked so hard to generate. I help small service businesses with 24/7 receptionist systems that can answer when you’re running equipment, collect the job details, and keep the opportunity moving until you’re available. You don’t need everything at once. Get the basics right, document your work like crazy, collect reviews after every good job, and build systems before you’re overwhelmed by the growth. Happy to help if you ever want to bounce some marketing or lead-system ideas around. I work with land management businesses, so this is right in my wheelhouse.
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