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Help a "Long Legs, Short Torso" rider escape geometry purgatory – Recommendations needed!
Hi everyone, I’m looking for some collective wisdom on my next bike purchase. I’ve realized the hard way that my current setup is a biomechanical mismatch, and I’m ready to move on to something that actually fits my proportions. The Body Stats: • Height: 177 cm • Inseam: 85.5 cm • Proportions: Classic "Long Legs / Short Torso" (LLST). The Current Problem: I’m currently riding a Specialized Tarmac SL7 in size 56 (Reach: 398 mm, Stack: 555 mm). While it’s a beautiful machine, it’s become a "stretch-fest" nightmare for me. To find a proper center of gravity and take the weight off my hands, I’ve had to push my saddle back on a 20 mm offset post (nearly maxing out the rails). This fixes the balance but makes the Reach to the bars absolutely massive for my short torso. The Symptoms: • Persistent lower back pain (specifically on the right side). • Hand numbness and excessive pressure on the hoods. • Feeling like I’m in a "Superman" position just to reach the controls. What I’ve Learned: A race-geo size 56 is simply too long, and a size 54 often has a Stack so low that the "saddle-to-bar drop" becomes too aggressive for my back. I need a frame that favors a High Stack-to-Reach ratio. The Ask: I’m looking for recommendations for a "fast but comfortable" frame that suits a short-torso rider. I’m leaning towards "All-Road" or "Endurance-Plus" geometries, but I still want something responsive. Current candidates on my radar: 1. Superior RR (Looking at the size 54/M - the Stack seems promising). 2. Canyon Endurace (The CF SLX/CFR line). 3. Giant Defy Advanced SL. Are there any other "Unicorn" frames I should look at that offer a short Reach without a slammed front end? If you are a fellow LLST rider, what are you riding that finally stopped your back pain? Thanks in advance for the help!
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That's part of the reason I got a custom frame. Yes, it costs a lot more . . . but how much are you spending buying different frames, stems, handlebars, etc., attempting (unsuccessfully) to get the right fit? Not to mention the pain and aggravation.
Fore or Aft of KOPS?
I know most fitters today no longer subscribe to using KOPS for saddle fore/aft. I know everyone is different, but is it more likely that being in front of KOPS is better, or being behind it? Is the "balance/hands-off" test a better way to determine fore/aft? Or, is there some other trick fitters use?
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So, if neither KOPS or the balance test is ideal, than how exactly are you supposed to come up with the proper fore/aft? (I mean for a DIY fit, not a pro fitter with the latest high-tech equipment.)
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