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How to navigate human interactions after loosing all faith in humanity
There are approximately 8.3 billion people in the world. I can’t possibly be the only person who has lost faith in humanity, or even the only person who wants to talk about how to navigate afterwards… Where do I find the other such ppl??? And why do people get so angry when I talk about losing faith in humanity? Do I even care why people are angry about this, or am I just angry that I can’t find other people to talk to about how to navigate? I don’t want to lie to myself… and even if I was willing to, I don’t think I could do a halfway decent job at convincing myself that I don’t see what I can see so clearly…. I do not believe that most ppl want to directly kill or 🍇 or enslave another group of people. But the truth is, ALL people support and help justify a group or an ideology or cause or movement that is or would kill or 🍇 or enslave another group of people…. And all people shame anyone who speaks out in defense of that group people whose murder or 🍇 or enslavment they are trying to help justify…. The truth is Hitler was an exceptionally evil person. And the truth is the average Nazi who looked up to Hitler, who justified or helped hide what the Nazi’s did, who shamed ppl for speaking out against the Nazi’s… That average Nazi was no more or less evil than the average person…. I can’t unsee this. Even if I was willing to lie to myself, I don’t think I could do a halfway decent job at convincing myself that this isn’t true… Trying to convince myself otherwise, feels to much like trying to convince a 5yrs who’s daddy is never coming to see them again, that “their daddy really will come next weekend”. I can’t possibly be the only person who has lost faith in humanity, or even the only person who wants to talk about how to navigate afterwards… Where do I find the other such ppl???
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Hey Samantha, I agree, when we look at the present and throughout history we see human beings enslaving, oppressing, stealing, killing, lying, r*ping, and many other horrible things. In history there are also glimpses of hope, true love, compassion, empathy, and freedom. To be real, it is important to acknowledge both. However, it is sobering and enlightening to acknowledge the pain and suffering we see in the world and how it can seriously put into question our faith in humanity. I think it is also important to acknowledge that life has tragic elements and many painful or negative experiences in the world just happen (congenital deformities that impact a person’s ability to live a normal/healthy life). Like you, I also see things and read things that really make me question whether humanity is able to reform or not. I feel a similar way. You are right, people have behaved in atrocious and unimaginable ways towards one another. I hope these words offer some hope that change is possible and accompaniment: “Ignorance and servitude have a tendency to make men wicked and unhappy. Science, reason, liberty, alone can reform them (humans) and render them more happy; but everything conspires to blind them and to confirm them in their blindness. The priests deceive them, tyrants corrupt them in order to subjugate them more easily. Tyranny has been, and will always be, the chief source of the depraved morals and habitual calamities of the people… Let the mind be filled early with true ideas; let man's reason be cultivated; let justice govern him; and there will be no need of opposing to his passions the powerless barrier of the fear of Gods. Men will be good when they are well taught, well governed, chastised or censured for the evil, and justly rewarded for the good which they have done to their fellow-citizens. It is idle to pretend to cure mortals of their vices if we do not begin by curing them of their prejudices. It is only by showing them the truth that they can know their best interests and the real motives which will lead them to happiness. Long enough have the instructors of the people fixed their eyes on heaven; let them at last bring them back to the earth.” - J. Meslier.
Trump's MOU
I have to share my opinion on the deal forming with the IRGC, I cant understand how Armin can be so optimistic at some point you have to face reality, Theres no 5d chess and the evidence is there I would love anyone to prove me wrong! - trump allows irgc to enrich to lower percentage(which means they will obviously cheat) - They will receive a massive economic boost with potential sanction relief!!! - Nothing about limiting proxy support - Nothing about limiting missiles and drones - The treatment of israel is now as an obstacle and not and ally that bled with the usa. - The irgc managed to pressure usa to surrender both to hamas and hezbollah ending the wars without real accomplishments Any way you look at this its a massive win for the irgc proving they could stand their ground against the usa, nobody is coming to save us its over. In israel we have lived through times of no geopolitical capital before, we couldnt even do anything about hezbollah raising a tent in our land or respond to rockets being fired fr gaza, I believe this is where we are going again, only now the whole world hates israel and jews and sees us as the problem. Sorry for the doom and gloom thats just how I feel.
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I agree with you. Armin has surprised me with his very hard turn to the right and what looks to me like as uncritical and even irrational support for Trump at times. At some point I noticed that, like Trump said, that he could “shoot someone on 5th avenue and he would not lose any voters” and he might be right, at this point only very hardcore supporters have remained uncritical. I am surprised that now we are negotiating with Iran to just get back to square-one, Trump and his crew are responsible for this, not to mention the introduction of astounding levels of corruption to the US government. The damage he has done in the time he has during this administration is wild.
Why Is the White House Cataloging Political Critics?
Looking through this White House page https://www.whitehouse.gov/media-bias-publication/leftist-influencers/, I found myself increasingly uncomfortable—not because I necessarily agree with David Pakman, Ed Krassenstein, Brian Tyler Cohen, or any other commentator mentioned there, but because of the precedent being set. Governments criticizing journalists is nothing new. Journalists criticizing governments is nothing new either. What feels different is seeing an official government website categorizing named individuals under labels such as “Left-Wing Lunacy,” “Media Offenders,” “Known Liar,” and similar political designations. Pakman, Krassenstein, and Brian Tyler Cohen are not anonymous internet trolls. They are political commentators whose views millions of Americans may disagree with, but disagreement is supposed to be answered with argument, not with government-maintained lists of ideological offenders. Perhaps I am reading too much into this, but there is something historically unsettling about a government publishing dossiers on political critics, particularly when some of those critics belong to groups that have historically been accused of disloyalty, manipulation, or undermining the nation from within. To be clear, I am not claiming these individuals were selected because they are Jewish. I have no evidence for that, but I can’t unsee the historical echoes of Jewish people being stereotypically associated with “left-wing” currents and media (Pakman, Krassenstein, and Cohen). What would conservatives have said if a Democratic administration created an official government webpage cataloging right-wing journalists, podcasters, influencers, and commentators under headings like “Right-Wing Lunacy,” “Known Liars,” or “Disinformation Offenders”? Would that be viewed as transparency? Or as an attempt to stigmatize political dissent?
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@Rr Halda, PhD That’s actually the part that concerns me. The fact that it is the government is not an answer—it is the reason for the question. Governments possess powers that private citizens, journalists, and commentators do not. That’s why many of us become more cautious, not less, when governments begin publicly labeling critics as ‘offenders,’ ‘lunatics,’ or ‘liars.’ If a future administration created an official website cataloging right-wing commentators under similar labels, would ‘because it is the government’ still be a sufficient justification? This situation reminded me of this poem: “First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me.” M. Niemöller.
Do we know what happened at the Minab girl's school
Is there any certainty (or most likely hypothesis) on what actually happened at the Minab girl's school on the first day of the war? This was and continues to be a propaganda tool for Islamic regime. I was speaking to a political scientist from a central European country who brought this up as a reason the Iranian people would not support military action against the IRGC. Was it actually a mistake by the US military that killed many school children; was the whole incident a complete fabrication; or does the answer lie in between?
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I’m not sure why you shifted the discussion from the evidence to the identity of the person making the report. Was the attack confirmed? Yes. Is there a dispute about responsibility, negligence, and whether it was a war crime? Yes, there is. Whether the reporter is Palestinian, Israeli, monarchist, socialist, conservative, or liberal does not by itself determine whether the report is true (although we should pay close attention). The question I’m interested in is much simpler: what evidence do we have regarding the event itself, and how reliable is that evidence? It sometimes feels like every request for verification is being interpreted as support for the regime, opposition to regime change, or some other political position. But asking for evidence is not the same thing as taking a side. Even showing facts that oppose the pro-MAGA narrative gets many people riled up. Also, could you show me evidence about the media publishing that the Abraham Lincoln sank 3 times? You also said “For over 6 weeks no one in the media has asked about the school. Not once! Not to Trump, Rubio, or in any military press conferences!” Do you consider this statement to be true? Or have you checked?
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@Jose Suarez Those are two separate questions. If your point is that U.S. journalists have not pressed Trump or Rubio on the school recently, that’s a much narrower claim than saying nobody in the media has asked about it. And regarding Al Jazeera, at this point the reporting is not limited to a single outlet. The story has been covered and discussed by multiple media organizations, so evaluating it solely through the lens of Al Jazeera’s credibility does not really address the broader body of reporting. As for the author, I don’t object to looking into her background. My point is simply that a reporter’s activism does not by itself determine whether a report is true or false. You even noted that you found nothing showing support for Hamas or hatred of Israel. So the question remains the same: what does the evidence regarding the school itself show? That’s ultimately more important than the political views of the person reporting on it.
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