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Land preparation
Hey everyone 👋 I’m noticing there’s a lot of great content on syntropic agroforestry design and succession, but much less on land preparation before planting, especially in Mediterranean contexts. I’d love some practical input on what you actually do before the first trees go in: • Is subsoiling always needed? For which soil types, and how do small growers even access one? • Do you add compost or manure at the start in planting lines? • Any experience with ash or rock dust early on, or better to let biology do the work? • Does a single initial plowing ever make sense in compacted Mediterranean soils? If you had to rank the most important interventions at the beginning, what would they be? Curious to hear real-world experiences (successes and failures), especially across different Mediterranean soil types. Thanks! 🌱
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@Milan Marquis Thanks a lot for this really appreciate you taking the time to break it down. The priority list is especially helpful when working with limited resources and trying to stay on budget. knowing what’s a must vs what’s optional makes a big difference. Quick clarifications I’m still not understanding: - Isn’t a rotovator essentially the same as plowing? - If both are used, would you subsoil first and then rotovate, or the other way around? For context, my site is an abandoned almond monoculture. The trees all died (likely disease), but it hasn’t been totally dead soil, neighboring sheep 🐑 have been grazing it. The soil is clay mixed with rocks, quite shallow, with bedrock even at the surface in some spots, which is why I’m unsure whether subsoiling is even a realistic option. Thanks again this is super useful.
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@Milan Marquis Thanks a lot man, really appreciate you taking the time to break all that down 🙏 super helpful. I still haven’t measured everything properly, but the system will probably end up around 350–450 m of lines total. I’m lucky on the manure side: I’ve got friends who race horses, so I should be able to get horse manure fairly easily. I already own a rotovator, and I’m planning to get a broadfork, since subsoilers are hard to find here on the island and pretty expensive. The rough plan for now is: - First desbrozar (clear the vegetation 😅) - Then mark out the lines, around 30 m long x 50-60cm and 6 m apart - Hire an excavator to make mini-swales and use the excavated soil to build a berm on the line (i feel like money spent here is worth it) - Use the broadfork where possible, then rotovate and spread some manure I want to have all this done by late March, so that until late october (when I plan to transplant trees) I’ll have time to run a couple of green manure flushes. I will plant my support species in air-prune beds ASAP, so they’re ready to go in when the time comes. Thanks again, solid advice 👊
Powerhouse Plants for the Mediterranean Climate
Electing your plant species for your syntropic system is a very difficult process for many. It's this typical overwhelming process where you don't know which plants to choose, that's why I aimed at making it much easier for you; condensing it down to 30 plants that grow very fast. Bear with me, it doesn't include later succession species, but don't worry, it's much more important to elect the right species entering into the secondary phase of a forest rather than thinking too much about which species will come later, as you can plant these later anyway. Most important advice here, don't overthink it, use whatever species grows fastest in your context to establish your system ASAP. I've separated the low water needs plants from the moderate water needs from the high water needs plants - symbolized by the water droplets. To be clear this is about water requirements at establishment, many plants in the moderate water needs will become tough as nails over time but if not watered enough at establishment, they will die. As well, the pile of sand (only tagasaste) symbolizes the need of the plant to be in loose or sandy soil. The shovel means these plants require good decompaction to get a good headstart - meaning breaking down the hardpan in a clay compacted soil - ex: using a subsoiler. Also, the snowflake means that these plants are frost sensitive, typically when temperatures go lower than 2 degrees they can exhibit damage. these plants are truly meant for a mild Mediterranean climate - especially mild winters. Lastly, the successional role of these plants is added at the end : - Placenta : Short-lived - Usually about 5 years maximum within a Mediterranean syntropic system. They can reach maturity within 6 months to a year and provide the fastest growth at establishment of your system. - Pioneer - Secondary : Plants that consolidate the transition from scrubland to forest. They are fast-growing too - but not as much as the placenta plants, usually reaching maturity around year 2 or 3. They create these conditions for the secondary forest to take place by providing high amounts of biomass and shade for the secondary seedlings below.
Powerhouse Plants for the Mediterranean Climate
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Super helpful 🤘
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Emergent Powerhouse Trees for the Mediterranean
As you may know, if you work in the Mediterranean climate, the Summer sun is a tough one and can have certain plants absolutely scorched by the Summer sun. Tomatoes are quite an example of that, and that happens with many nightshades and other summer vegetables. The same can happen to bushes and trees if planted in full sun. And for me this is one of the main reason I stick with syntropic agroforestry to this day. I've made observations of Summer crops planted in full sun vs between syntropic lines. And the difference can be massive sometimes. Not only are they protecting the crops from intense sunlight but as well from evaporation which is another consideration. So, it's why I want to share with you 5 of the emergent powerhouse trees that work quite well in the Mediterranean. The emergent strata/layer is key in the Mediterranean for our dappled sunlight trickling through our canopy layer and below. And I will share quick considerations about all 5 of them. You'll understand by the end of this article that these 5 different emergents are adapted to different conditions and there's always drawbacks in using any of them but also advantages that you can benefit from for your specific context Eucalyptus (camaldulensis/globulus) Everyone who's planted a syntropic system in the Mediterranean has tried planting eucalyptus. After all it's been referred to as "the king" for its fast growth and enormous biomass that it can offer. I've had many grow to 2m tall in 1 year with little irrigation. Now one consideration, eucalyptus trees grow much faster if they have access to underground water, but it is is still possible to grow them with driplines, after all these eucalyptus that grew 2m in one year did not have access to ground water. But for a very limited water supply they might not be your best bet. As well, it's important to discern eucalyptus growth in the subtropics from the semi-arid climate. In the subtropics you'd see many people taking their heads completely off. Same in Mediterranean plantations that have access to groundwater but if that's not your case, it's important to keep stubs and/or branches that have the potential to become new leaders rather than taking off 100% of its foliage.
Emergent Powerhouse Trees for the Mediterranean
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@Milan Marquis This is really helpful, thanks 🙏My main objective is to grow a diversity of fruit so there’s always something to harvest throughout the year for my family. If there’s excess, I might give it away or eventually do something small like a CSA, but that’s not the goal for now. What attracted me to Gennaro’s system was mainly the simplicity of it. The pattern of 3 Robinias – 1 avocado – 3 Robinias – 1 avocado really resonated with me because it feels easy to manage and easy to replicate. I was kind of extrapolating that logic to other rows: for citrus something like 3 Robinias – 1 orange – 3 Robinias – 1 lemon, and the same idea for stone fruit, etc. I’m basically trying to keep the system as simple and modular as possible. That said, what you’re saying makes a lot of sense. I may be over-anchoring the design to something I’ve seen working elsewhere instead of really prioritizing the best emergent species for my conditions. Water availability is definitely a big constraint we average 400-500mm, and when I think about it, many of the other species I mentioned like Peruvian pepper maybe make more sense as the primary backbone in terms of vigor and water efficiency. So maybe the right move is to swap Robinias out of the “main structural” role and use something like eucalyptus or p. pepper as the primary emergent layer, keeping Robinia more as a secondary support species rather than the core of the system. I’m attaching an image of the current design so you can see how I’ve been thinking about the layout so far. I really appreciate the help and insight 🫶
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@Milan Marquis Thanks so much!!! I honestly would never have considered Casuarina on my own 😅 It looks so much like a pine that my brain instantly goes to pine processionary trauma 🐛, haha. But after looking into it, it actually seems like a really solid option for my conditions, especially from a water-use pov. I’m definitely going to reconsider the design and see how I can keep things simple and modular without relying so heavily on robinia as the main structural species. I’ll keep sharing iterations of the design as it evolves.. your feedback is super valuable. I’m not planning to implement anything other than cover crops until next autumn anyway, so there’s time to think it through properly. Thanks again 🙏
Welcome to all the new people ! Heads up
Hi everybody, stoked to see 25 people already present on the community ! Here's a little heads up : At the moment there's only 3 videos here that are just a showcase of some systems, but mini-courses about stratification, syntropic jargon, succession, efficient tools, syntropic philosophy, interviews are coming very soon ! It will take a couple weeks to really start kicking off, so a bit of patience is needed ! Thanks for you all to have joined, looking forwrad to turn this into a vibrant community where we can share our learnings !
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Hi! Thanks for the message, I’m really happy to be here already. My name is Miquel. I’m very happy to find a syntropic agroforestry group focused on mediterranean conditions. On the 21st I will become the owner of an abandoned plot of land in Mallorca, about 6,500 m² 😁, and my idea is to transform around 4,000 m² into a syntropic system. The timing is very good because I’m just in the design phase. The mini-courses and shared knowledge will help me a lot. I’m looking forward to learn together, see the community grow, and also contribute when I can. Thanks a lot for creating this space!
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