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Should the agent be allowed to propose changes to relationships, or only to values?
my question in 1 sentence : Should an ICM agent be allowed to propose changes to relationships (fields pointing one record at another, like ownership) or only to scalar values (self-contained data such as amounts, dates, statuses and free text) — and is that distinction even a legitimate permission boundary, given that Jake's model draws the line on role, route and sensitivity, never on field type? ------------------------- The context I run an ICM where the catalog is generated from the system that holds the actual records, and where the agent can propose changes back through a human gate. Reads flow one way, proposals flow the other, and nothing is written without me approving it. When I built the proposal path, I made a decision I now think was wrong. I allowed the agent to propose changes to values — amounts, statuses, dates, free text — but I blocked it from proposing changes to relationships: the fields that point one record at another. My reasoning at the time was that a pointer is structural, and structure should be changed deliberately, through the interface, not through text. Re-reading the ICM Architect material, I no longer think that distinction holds. Jake's permission model is built on role ("agents inherit the access of the role they act for, never more"), on route ("the permission lives in the routing, at the data layer or along the route"), and on sensitivity ("shelve by sensitivity"). Never on the technical type of a field. And relationships are not second-class in his model. Invariant 8: "Links make it a graph… the edges are what let an AI move through your work the way you do." His own node template carries owner: <accountable person or role> right next to consumes: and produces: wikilinks — all of it ordinary frontmatter. So I may have invented a governance rule that is really just an implementation constraint wearing a costume. --- The concrete example The field is ownership — who is accountable for a record. Today: Me : "Who is accountable for this one?"
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@Mofedul Alam Joy thanks for your answer
How important do you think a traditional visual interface will still be in the future?
Do we still need dashboards, menus, buttons and complex applications? Or will the AI itself become the main interface, with a simple visual layer only for things like monitoring, approvals and seeing what’s happening? I’m curious how you see this evolving over the next 5 years. Will we still use software, or will we mostly talk to software? @David McDermott @Ari Evergreen @Jake Van Clief @David Vogel @Matthew Creamer @Bas Rosario
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@Andre Cordero what do you mean exactly?
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@Gabriel Azoulay thank you
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EDIT: WE HAD OVER 100 PEOPLE SIGN UP IN TEN MINUTES....GOING TO BE ROLLING OUT ACCESS ON SLOWER BASIS NOW SO I DONT RUIN MY BANK ACCOUNT WITH TOKEN SPEND FOR YALL (im covering ai costs for everyone) but keep applying we are keeping track and will be letting more people in and reaching out about getting you all access one by one especially VIP. Our Platform is here, the thing a lot of you have been asking for and I have been teasing Take your ICM folders and second brains, put them in the cloud, and work on them together in real time. You upload your folders and files. One strong model with a good harness reads the map and becomes the agent you need. No new agents to build, no zip files to pass around. Each workspace runs in its own container. It renders your markdown, edits your files, installs packages, runs Python and Playwright, and multiple people can work in the same space at once. No Mac Mini needed to keep your data separate either. We're opening it to VIP and alpha testers first, and I'm covering the AI cost while we test so cant do a full role out yet. Free AI use which is great for those users, not great for my bank account haha. ✍️ Sign up for access: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdSnToxclxt8EgoB2GizrEvHP7gzOedVcRXdCkpi1SZwR8ZfA/viewform 🔗 Questions, or want to work heavier with this? Email info@eduba.io
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@Jake Van Clief you are creating a System that solve Team communication Eduba = 1 system = 1 platforme = 1 language = truth of Data->>> no one can say i did not know ->>>> team communication Am I right ? @David McDermott
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@Ry Mac did a GREAT job simplifying things down. Recommend taking a look. Has his own group too! https://skool.com/buildmarketclose/about
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The explanation of "lost in the middle " with the desk and the folder on it === very very good to explain it
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@Ry Mac you are a good sales man . That why you know how to describe it in this way
Someone knows a safe tool or github repo to let the agent watch a youtube video
Part of my education journey is to teach also my knowledge folder information. I would like to increase my education rate by creating a pipeline, from a url youtube video -->> aggent analyse and get information-->> create a md file I have everything working my last step that are doing manually is the step 1. So is anyone has something to let an agent read, watch, listen a youtube video ?
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