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We had about 450 clients and 3 people talking to them
At our peak we had about 450 clients and a client-facing team of 3. The whole company was around 16 people. People hear that and assume we had genius account managers. We had good ones, but that's not why it worked. It worked cuz there was almost nothing to manage. No monthly report to build. No strategy call to sit through. No retainer to justify every 30 days. Clients put money in a wallet, leads showed up, and if a lead was truly bad they returned it under a clear policy. About 15% come back and that's just part of the math. When a retainer agency starts feeling stretched, the first move is usually hiring another account manager. Sometimes that's right. But a lot of the time the work is coming from the offer, not the clients. Every custom thing you promise on the sales call is a meeting somebody has to run later. I'm not saying burn your retainers. Kyle's old agency ran about 20 clients with the same headcount we had for 450, and he sold it. It just had a different ceiling. What's the one deliverable you promise every client that eats the most of your team's week?
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Cold Email For SMB?
I'm wanting to add cold email as an acqusition to get more customers into my agency. My business's ICP is SMB contractors and home service businesses. I have seen tons of videos about people selling high ticket products through cold email to bigger businesses, doing more then 1M/Year, but does it work for SMB's as well?
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It works for SMB, just not the way those high ticket videos run it. Most contractors check email on their phone at night if they check it at all, so a three paragraph case study gets deleted. The ones that get replies read like a text from a guy in town. Two lines, one specific thing about his business, one question. And treat the email as the way to get the phone conversation, cuz the owner picks up a call way more often than he answers an inbox. What are you offering them right now, retainer or pay per lead?
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@Jason Hawes nice, at $299 a month the math gets tight fast. To hit $10k a month you need 34 clients won and kept, and every one that churns sends you back to prospecting. Cold email can fill that, but I'd lead with something they feel in week one, like more booked jobs from the calls and leads they already get, and sell SEO as the long game. How long does a typical client stay with you?
Is anyone doing wholeseller / real estate investor ads?
I just started a campaign, we have spent $125 for 1 lead lol. This is like the worse i have seen in any one of the businesses i work with. I dont know if its cuz i just started campaign 3 days ago, or what kind of results yall are seing. Any help appreciated would love to network even pay for time to see whats working thx.
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@Willie Portillo $20 a day across 4 adsets is the real problem before the creative is. You're asking the platform to learn 4 audiences on beer money, so none of them get enough data to get cheap. I'd kill it down to one adset with your best 3 creatives and let it actually spend. On the pay per lead question, yes, investor leads are our main thing, but price swings a lot by market and whether the lead is exclusive, so a number without that context would be useless to you. What's your buyer paying per deal right now?
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@Aaron Brewer Appreciate that Aaron. The investor niche punishes impatience more than most, people kill a campaign in week one and never find out what it would have done. Your sales call moved to Thursday this week right? Curious if you see the same thing on the sales side, people killing a script before it's had enough reps.
The best sales pitch I ever gave, I didn't say a word
Early on we sponsored an investor event for $10,000 we didn't really have. We had six clients. About 90 minutes before our slot, the organizer told me the top closers in the room were going to call our leads live on stage. We had nothing ready. My partner Kyle took our daily ad budget from $500 to $50,000 from a hotel room so we'd have fresh ones. I printed the list five minutes before I walked out, circled a chunk for each closer, and stood there in my cute little plaid shirt sweating while phones rang in front of 500 people. In 30 minutes they sent five contracts. One of them, RJ Bates, got a deal signed that he sold for about $100,000. I didn't pitch anything. Nobody in that room was wondering if the leads were real anymore. Most sales calls I sit in on are the opposite. Twenty minutes of explaining why it'll work, and the prospect still has to take your word for it. What could you show a prospect live on the call instead of describing it?
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🙏🙏 HELP Needed (Roofing Client Isn’t Getting Results)
Hey guys, I have a roofing client in Memphis, TN. I’ve been working with him for over a month and we’re barely getting leads recently. He says if results don’t improve he’d want a refund. If anyone has experience running ads for roofers, I’d really really appreciate if we could hop on a quick 10-15 min call and help me clarify what I could improve. It would literally save me. I’d be extremely grateful. Thank you
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He's asking for a refund cuz he's paying for a month and can't see what he got for it. Short term, Mason's hail map idea in the other thread is solid. Longer term, what fixed this for us was charging per lead instead of per month, so the client only pays when something lands and the refund talk goes away. How many leads has he gotten this month, and how many did his team actually call?
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Drew Carrell
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$100M+ in ad spend. I run a $1M/mo pay-per-lead agency. Inc 5000, 4,000+ clients, and show operators how the model actually works. No guru fluff.

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