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Clarification When You Need To Have Material Participation
Hi! I just want to make sure I am 100% understanding when you need to have material participation and when you don't to take advantage of the 100% depreciation of qualified improvements to your STR property: 1. If you have W-2/1099 income and you want to write off your loses against your W-2/1099 income, you need to have material participation. (Reason: Because the W-2/1099 is active income and the STR real estate is passive unless you have material participation to make it active) Is that Correct? 2.If you don't have a W-2 and you only invest in real estate, you can take advantage of the 100% depreciation for qualified improvements for a property against your passive investment earnings. No material participation is required. (Reason: All of the income would be considered passive) Is that Correct? 3.I read that you qualify for material participation if you took part in the business for five of the previous 10 taxable years. No specific hours required. (https://www.reihub.net/resources/short-term-rental-tax-loophole/). Is that Correct? 4. If you don't meet the material participation requirement you can still take advantage of the 100% depreciation against any passive income. If the depreciation is more than your passive income, it will carry over to the next year. Is that Correct? Thank you!!
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I believe you have it right. Join the Friday calls if you are still uncertain.
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@Theresa Thekkudan I always invest in people's needs vs wants. People need somewhere to live (SFH, MFH) people want to splurge and go on vacation (STR). The tax benefits aren't as great with MFH compared to STRs unless you are a real estate professional. -Ryan
Trumpโ€™s Plan For 401ks
๐Ÿ† Winners 1. First-Time Homebuyers Struggling With Affordability - People who are unable to come up with a down payment could enter the housing market sooner. - Especially beneficial for younger Americans with decent 401(k) balances but limited savings. 2. The Real Estate Industry - More buyers = more demand. - Realtors, mortgage brokers, appraisers, and homebuilders could see a boost in business. 3. Politicians Promoting โ€œHomeownershipโ€ - Policies like this play well politically, especially with millennials and Gen Z who feel priced out of the market. - It gives the appearance of doing something big about housing affordability โ€” even if it doesnโ€™t address the root issue. 4. People in Hot Real Estate Markets - In high-growth cities or low-inventory markets, this added demand could drive prices even higher. - Existing homeowners benefit from price appreciation. ๐Ÿ’ธ Losers 1. Future Retirees Who Withdraw Funds - The biggest loser is likely you 30 years from now. - Withdrawing from your 401(k) cuts into compound growth, which is often the key to a secure retirement. - Many people may never โ€œrebuildโ€ that retirement balance once it's withdrawn. ๐Ÿ’กExample: Pulling $40,000 at age 30 could cost you over $300,000 at retirement, assuming 7% growth. 2. The Broader Retirement System - This undermines the original purpose of 401(k)s, which is long-term retirement savings. - It sets a precedent that retirement accounts are just piggy banks for near-term needs, weakening financial discipline. 3. Taxpayers (If the Plan Includes Forgiveness or Defaults) - If this policy includes penalty-free and tax-free treatment, it reduces future tax revenues. - If borrowers default on mortgages or lose homes, there could be broader economic spillovers. 4. People Who Stay Invested in 401(k)s During Market Rallies - If a participant withdraws during a market dip to buy a house, they lock in losses. - Meanwhile, others who leave money in may benefit from the rebound.
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Mega back door Roth
I have a single member LLC pass through umbrella that holds all my individual STR LLCs. Can I pay myself as an employee so that I can contribute 72k after tax and do a mega back door Roth? Is it true I donโ€™t need a C or S corp to do this? A friend does this using mysolo401k.net. He says I have to pay payroll taxes at 15%. Iโ€™m assuming thatโ€™s 15% of the 72k? He has the employer contribute 72k and the employee contribute 0
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the only way to fund a retirement account through your rental properties is to pay yourself a w2. You don't need to be an S Corp or a C corp in order to do this. But yes, you will end up paying 15.3% into social security/medicare taxes, so $72,000 x 15.3% vs you can get a tax deduction of $72,000 x your tax bracket. If you already have a 401K through work this gets a little tricky because there are caps on how much you can get in a retirement account.
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@Jade de Guzman the employee portion is capped at $23,500 or $24,500 something like that, but the employer portion is based on business profits.
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