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Electrical final elements
Can anyone share their experience? Very practical two questions related to an issue which exists in many PFDavg calculations. What's your approach to a safety loop that includes typical electrical final elements, e.g. contactors? Although the IEC61508 and IEC61511 standards apply to electrical devices, many such solutions widely used in industry lack certification and reliability data. And if the data is available, it's usually related to PFH and is based on B10d - not well suitable for demand mode of operation calculations. Second one: how do you confirm their systematic capability?
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Hi Thomasz, funny you should bring this up as I am currently in the middle of designing a SIL rated loop with this exact same scenario. I was chatting with another one of our engineers this morning and he said he had previously used generic data (Exida SERH) for the Contactor, and said the SFF is usually around 60%. We will be running the calcs along with others over the next couple of weeks so will report back with which data we use ... Just in addition to this we will wire the N/C aux contact of the contactor in series with the reset of the PILZ Safety Relay to inhibit the SIF being reset if the Contactor fails (welded contacts etc). This should provide better diagnostic coverage since the existing VSD pre dates Safe Torque-Off functionality!
IPL Management
Hi All, Just read an interesting article on the recent introduction of an ISA standard which provides guidance on the management of Independent Protection Layers - Low Integrity Protection Layers: ANSI/ISA-84.91.03-2025 Explained. This is an interesting subject as IPL's are an essential aspect when working out the target RRF of a SIF, however they are often forgotten about once the plant goes back into operation. Some sites do manage the maintenance of IPL's differently to non-safety loops, via a maintained IPL register, IPL validation and more stringent testing routines. However this is not always the case and a lot of the time IPL's just fall into the normal maintenance system as this article suggests. Would be interesting to hear from the group your thoughts on this subject .....
2 likes • May 10
Hi Sergio, great question. Personally this is not something I think you could came claim credit for twice in a LOPA, i.e. as a BPCS layer and Safety layer (if that’s what you are meaning) as there are too many points of CCF (the same initiator and same final element). It would be best to have a completely Independant second loop for my safety layer if you want to claim credit for an additional layer of protection. For safety system trips I would always design the trip signal to be repeated to the BPCS via software link (or if ifs a hardwired trip, using a second contact off the trip amp), however this would be for indication purposes only, Also note that whenever there’s an interaction from between the SIS and the BPCS the designer must be very careful to ensure that any BPCS failure does not have any affect on the SIS. So personally I would stray away from the idea you mentioned as I don’t see it serving much additional benefit from a risk reduction factor point of view. It would be best to go for two PT’s for two completely independent channels and ideally with separate final elements, although on some legacy plants sometimes the final elements are shared. In this case there must be a reduction in your IPL credit claim on the BPCS layer … This is just my opinion, would be good to hear what the others in the group think.
Incorporating FSM into the overall quality system
I'm interested in your experience regarding the technical implementation of functional safety management within an existing quality management system, e.g., ISO 9001. I am particularly interested in implementing this process for a consulting company that performs most tasks in the safety lifecycle. Any advice is welcome and I would be greatly appreciated.
0 likes • Apr 28
Hi Thomasz, I am not entirely sure I am reading your question correctly but are you referring to Functional Safety Audits? Independent FS audits should check the adequacy of company safety procedures against the requirements from the standard. Audits are also used to check the company procedures are actually being followed by the project …
T6A Symposium 2026
Good Morning All, Just to let you know the 61508 Association are holding a conference in York on November 25th this year. The event is free to join and looks to include a very good agenda regarding Functional Safety Compliance. I have attached the flyer for those that are interested 🙂
1 like • Apr 15
@Tomasz Barnert great stuff mate. I will be there so will be great to meet you!
Decision Review Update
Quick update — I’m feeling a bit under the weather this week, so I’m going to reschedule our deep dive review session to make sure I can give it the energy and focus it deserves. I’ll post the new date and time once I’m back on my feet — aiming for Friday if all goes well. In the meantime, if there’s a specific topic or question you’d like me to cover in that session, drop it in the comments below so I can build it into the updated plan. Appreciate your understanding, and I’ll catch you all very soon. – Richard
1 like • Apr 14
@Rob Connors this would be great also as I am likely to miss the sessions if during working hours …
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