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1973 Opel Diplomat - Single Stage Metallic
Painted this car with a single-stage metallic (Tikkurila Temadur 90) yesterday for a friend of mine. This was my biggest undertaking so far. I've learned that single-stage metallics are extremely tricky. I practiced on one fender, four doors, and two hoods (some of them more than once) to get the gun settings right for my WS-400 1.3HD. Despite all that, the first panel I sprayed at my friend's garage immediately started showing tiger striping. If you spray too wet, the flakes start swimming and you end up with tiger stripes or blotchiness. I was constantly struggling to find the happy medium between acceptable orange peel and good flake control. This paint definitely needed a control coat, and that's what fixed the sunroof, too. There were some dust issues in his space, but he's very happy with the result. No runs, no tiger stripes, and the orange peel is relatively uniform. His own attempt at painting the car hadn't gone well, and taking it to a professional shop wasn't within his budget. He also wasn't willing to switch to a basecoat/clearcoat system. Personally, I don't think I ever want to touch single-stage metallic paint again. I lived under constant stress for a couple of months planning this spray, and I'm so happy it's done! 😆
1973 Opel Diplomat - Single Stage Metallic
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Wow! What an undertaking - it looks like it came out great. Thanks for sharing pictures!
Need help creating a color
I'm going to respray an 88 Corvette the owner is asking for something custom and with the help of chat gpt I have come up with black burgundy metallic. The gist of it is basically a black metallic that has a burgundy flop, he wants it to look black in the shade but shift to burgundy depending on lighting etc. I had shown him charcoal metallic which is native to that years Corvette and he seemed to like it a bit but not enough to pay me to spray it. I will attach some sample images chatbot came up with. I'm struggling with creating an actual formula i can give my paint store to create samples with. Also a concern is what will actually look good on that car and of course I'm unsure how much to charge for the job. I have discussed 6k but he's willing to pay more this also raises the issue of what materials to use. He likes the idea of a self healing scratch resistant clear, somethjng very durable. I had been considering sikkens superior 250 but shopping online it's really hard to find. I really want the color to pop. At this point I'm stuck would appreciate suggestions. I think the original color of the car is grey it looks black at a distance it has been repainted and the sticker with factory paint code is of course missing. I will attach a few pictures of the current color. It looks like whoever shot it the metallic is standing up the car needs a lot of bodywork the panels are wavy. Never shot a Corvette before.
Need help creating a color
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This will be a bit of a long process, but certainly do-able! Start with a good paint store - even better if the people at the counter are willing to help. Bring the reference images as a direction, and ask to see popular alternates or chips / sample book in whatever line you plan to spray. House of Kolor (HOK) is a good starting point, and PPG's Vibrance Collection is the other one to look at. Many manufacturers (akzo, etc) aren't going to have something like this right off the shelf or in a variant deck. But, if you find a color you like in Vibrance or HOK, you can certainly scan that chip with a spectrophotometer at the paint store to establish a baseline starting point in whichever like you'd like to spray. But, above all else, get the body straight before you worry about any of this. A dark metallic or candy will show everything on the corvette. Estimate the bodywork, the spray outs, and the color development time as separate sections, and plan for lots of time getting it right. If you don't have a great booth that is clean, temperature controlled, and can bake, I might not recommend Superior 250 as it's one of the more challenging clears to work with. It is super durable and phenomenal when it goes right. Hope this helps 😎
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Slick Sand and Featherfill G2 are both good options. I prefer the G2 for how it sprays, but both will work. Before any primer goes on though, the key on is getting the existing paint and old bodywork off so you can see what you're really working with. I've uncovered a lot of prior work on Corvettes, including part of a front clip that had been replaced on a mostly original '65! One that has been wrecked and repaired by a shop that wasn't thorough may have some surprises underneath. If I was taking it on, I'd strip it down to a stable substrate and confirm there aren't major structural issues before starting on everything. From there, go to a high build polyester of your choosing and start blocking it out. Being in California, you might also consider Duratec vinylester primer. On the clears: Pro Air is on the soft side. It's a good factory replacement clear, and in the Lesonal line, EcoClear LV and Universal Clear are even softer. For a car that gets driven and washed a lot, that's worth knowing going in. Superior 250 is the best clear in my opinion, but it is very challenging to spray. What you're describing, self healing, gloss retention, lays out without a cut and buff, is attainable, but it takes great equipment, skill, and money, not just a good gallon of clear. The grand helps with the material, but expect things will add up quickly - both materials and time. If this were my job, that's the order I'd run it in: strip it, confirm it's a good base to work with, high build polyester, lots of blocking, then pick the paint materials based on budget and realistic expectations.
Intro
Hey all. My name is Jeanty. Im a 24 year old painter based out here in Ohio. Growing up Ive always been very passionate about art and cars and inevitably the two things merged and I ended up in this field. I recently just got a new role painting prototypes at Honda’s R&D department that im super excited about. Also, here’s one of my personal projects. It was a chameleon paint job I did on my G37. I ended up getup into an accident and the car is totaled, but it was fun while it lasted ! Very happy to be apart of this community and meet you all.
Intro
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Welcome - glad you're here! Hope you're able to learn a few things to make your work at Honda easier!
Question about epoxy
Youtube taught me to use epoxy on metal and over filler. But... If your sealer is an epoxy, this step can be skipped? So instead of epoxy on filler ud be applying reduced epoxy over 2k, before base. My guess: yes it would work. Why wouldnt it. Another headscratcher.. spi epoxy tds says 320grit over paint at most. But sealer requires 400 so how would that work even? My guess: idk, analysis paralysis. 320 what if it shows, 400 what if it doesnt adhere.. need Aaron on this one I got a quart kit of epoxy, planned to use a bit for bare metal and seal everything before base but now im thinking i might run out, and my 2k urethane states you can base over it without sealer. So maybe thats the way...cuz i have a gallon kit of the 2k.. My guess: its spi so if they say you can apply color over their 2k urethane they are not lying. It would just come down to color. Black epoxy sealer would work only for very dark colors: dark cherry red, dark blue, midnight purple, but grey would work for pretty much anything except for white yellow and like that I grabbed the black epoxy and if used as a sealer it limits the colors you can do but the urethane is grey so the choices would open up.. tbh. I dont care what color it will be.
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In this case, with SPI epoxy and how much bare metal you have showing, I'd definitely plan on sanding everything back down before proceeding. You'll want to stay on the coarser side at this stage so everything has plenty of mechanical adhesion. With a repair this large, there's still quite a bit of priming and blocking to do before I'd worry about the final paint steps. If this were my project and I were going for the best possible finish, I'd start with epoxy, then apply some sort of vinylester or polyester primer and block everything flat. From there, I'd spray a coat or two of high-build urethane primer, block that out to P400, then move on to urethane sealer, basecoat, and clearcoat. If the car isn't going for absolute perfection, you can certainly simplify things and go from epoxy straight into high-build urethane primer. Just keep in mind there's a little more risk of shrinkage down the road, especially with a repair this large. That's one of the reasons I like having the polyester or vinylester step in there when I'm trying to get everything really straight. So I wouldn't get too hung up on the P320 vs. P400 question yet. P400 is where I'd want to end up on that final urethane primer before sealer, but you're not really at that stage yet. As far as false-edge masking goes, I usually reserve that for the final paint stages: a think coat of urethane sealer, basecoat, and clear. It doesn't work particularly well with heavier primer layers because you'll still end up building a substantial edge. And yes, if SPI says you can apply basecoat directly over their 2K urethane, you certainly can. I just tend to prefer that final sealer coat, especially when there's a mix of substrates underneath. It gives you one consistent surface before you start laying down color.
Inner panels coating and finishing
I am looking closely at finishing off the internal cavity areas of my car body. I'd like to get feedback on what other people are doing in this regard and what products they use. I found a lot of info on what layer process should be used for the external finishing but internally things are not as clear.... I have given the insides of the body panels 2 coats of PPG epoxy primer. After scuffing with a red scotchbrite I was going to apply 2 or 3 heavy coats of uPol Gravitex. This would be applied to the insides of just about anywhere I can get to (inside rear quarters, inside door skins, pillars, front fenders), most of these areas would not get any other paint applied. However, areas that get seen such as inside the rear quarter panels (in the trunk area), would get colour/clear finish on top. So please share what you found works, what is best practice and products are junk and what works for you. Thanks,
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I tend to go a bit overkill with this stuff. My preference is to keep everything wet-on-wet from bare metal whenever possible for maximum chemical adhesion. I generally start with epoxy primer sprayed as a sealer. I use a 1.4 tip on my SATA 1500 Solv B for areas that aren't going to be sanded, particularly internal areas where I'm going directly over bare metal. From there, I'll usually topcoat it with one of a few things depending on the area: - Single-stage SEM Hot Rod Black (2K), PPG equivalent, or something similar - Basecoat/clearcoat where I want it body color (either Gloss or Matte Clear) - Tinted or black U-POL Raptor or USC Defender where I want more protection and texture (outside of floor pans, etc) I generally shy away from 1K products for this kind of work. If I'm going through all the trouble of taking a car down this far, I'd rather use catalyzed products wherever I can. Then, once everything is painted and fully cured, I go pretty heavy with cavity wax anywhere I can get it. I prefer the 3M stuff. Probably more involved than strictly necessary, but that's the process I've settled on for cars I want to protect for the long haul and it's worked great every time
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