so very interesting, when I was doing the limiting exercise for there is fire, I realized with Loudmax's ceiling at -1db I could not get to -9 RMS at all! Not until I changed my ceiling to -0.1 Db. I cranked up the gain on the track, as well as the volume to the TOP, and it still didn't get to -9 RMS, until I changed my ceiling! Don't know if I did it right, but pretty cool to figure that out lol. Let me know guys. :)