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Vote on your favourite topics
We would love to hear from you about what you are interested in and what you need from us! @Robert Nagy and I are planning future workshops, programs, webinars, Q&A and more for independent consultants like you! Please vote on topics that interest you most. Feel free to add in the Comments below any ideas that aren't already listed.
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1 like • 26d
Can I just say "all of the above?" I want to learn about them all. Right now I'm working on a couple of changes that feel big - away from workshops as my core service to consulting. And switching my ideal client from managers to CEOs and niching my offerings.
A change is coming to our PPS Skool community...
Hi there PPS Skool community members, @Robert Nagy and I have been talking about how to grow the Package Promote Scale community on Skool.com so we can serve more consultants and service providers like you. We've decided to make the community public from 1 June (which also happens to be Rob's birthday!) Right now, PPS is private. Only members can see what's posted. Once we change this setting to public, anyone visiting the community page will be able to read the posts and comments inside, including ones you've already made. This means we can reach more independent consultants and make it easier for them to find us when searching online and in the Skool Discovery where people can search for communities of interest. Here's what you need to know: Only members can post. That's not changing. Public visitors can read but can't contribute. We still vet new members carefully. A legitimate LinkedIn profile is the baseline requirement, before approving their membership. Plus they need to agree to our Rules. Member profiles will also be visible. Anyone who visits the members page in the group can see who's a member (it's not unlike Facebook or LinkedIn in that way). They'd need to specifically visit that page to see it, just like with the posts and comments. If you'd rather not be visible, Skool has settings under your Profile, click your profile picture (top right), select Profile, scroll down to Edit Profile. Find the Membership Visibility section. Use the toggle switches to hide or show the communities you are in to hide your membership and to hide your profile from search engines. Worth a look if that matters to you. If you're happy for your past comments to be visible publicly, you don't need to do anything. If you'd prefer some or all of your comments stayed private, reply and tell me which ones and I'll remove them. Or log in and do it yourself, whichever's best for you. And if this change means PPS isn't right for you anymore, we genuinely understand. No hurt feelings.
1 like • May 6
This is great. I would love this community to be more active. There is so much to learn from those who've done this before me, and those I can learn alongside. Thanks for hosting this platform Jodie and Rob.
Scarcity mindset - testing pricing
Hello friends I've had my first conversation testing the pricing of my first product... so I know I can't get ahead of myself because there are more conversations to be had... and therefore, more opportunities. But how do you get people to move past the scarcity mindset they have in NFP and Councils? Is this something that is fairly unique to volunteer engagement because we have done without for so long? How do you even find the organisations who value PD and have money set allocated for this? I got some fairly clear messages today after sharing about my workshop (and this person experienced the workshop and the outcomes and feedback when I first ran it): • Council runs on the smell of an oily rag • I only had money to pay you because I went on leave and had to spend my budget • We only paid 25% of what you're charging for a workshop from the peak body I will continue my conversations. I have another 4 or 5 to come. But I feel like I have to be prepared for similar themes and to have a strategy to speak to this, to challenge this, and to keep on building offers that deliver solutions to the challenges organisations face. Thanks for your encouragement. I'm going to go pull some positives from the conversation now. It wasn't a no, that's for sure... but it was clearly led by limitations.
2 likes • Apr 13
I think the business model I have envisioned has been turned on its head with funding changes coming. Not back to the drawing board... but definitely a rethink is in order! Perhaps shifting to a new package to lead into consulting work rather than focusing on workshops.
3 likes • Apr 15
An update @Jodie Willmer and @Robert Nagy. Since I posted this I have had invitations and enquiries to facilitate workshops from; an interstate volunteer resource centre, a UK volunteer resource centre, a national UK volunteer-involving organisation, and an Australian peak body to speak at a conference. THIS is what I envisioned. The funding challenges are here (with more coming)... but it's really encouraging to know that what I have to share is seen as valuable, despite the circumstances. And the peak body request - this will be a potential ongoing relationship for future workshops, I'm sure.
Package Builder Profitability - eye opener!!
I've been playing with the profitability worksheet. First go at it, with a generous salary for me per hour (because I deserve it!) and the assumption of 6 hours work (delivery plus research, customisation and travel time) gave me an 11% profit. Dropping my wage by $40 an hour still only gave me a 43% profit. I've also played around with 2 hours delivery and 2 hours for everything else associated at each salary level. A real eye opener!! It is making me feel a little sick when I increase the package price to hit 50%... it's definitely more than I've been charging. I'd love to know from people here an average cost of a workshop you sell to a Council, peak body or large not-for-profit organisation, if you're happy to share, even privately. @Jodie Willmer & @Robert Nagy
2 likes • Mar 24
And I've got to be honest... even at the lower salary for my time... when I cost this for individuals (my ideal client does not have a lot of disposable income to pay for workshops themselves, and often little discretionary budget) I actually get a negative profit at any price point I think is fair for them. I'm having a crisis of conscience... and I know this is no way to run a successful business! 🥴
2 likes • Mar 24
@Jodie Willmer thank you. I know you're right. I bring with me lots of money mindset issues, and narratives that I've inherited from my sector and workplaces. I keep reminding myself that part of what I want to do is challenge the undervaluing of volunteer engagement as a profession. I want organisations to resource them appropriately. And that has to start with me - I can't compromise those values from the outset. I am interested to look at other alternatives to pricing... does everything I offer have to create the same profit margin? Should some things be an entry point? Should some things in my product ecosystem get people in the door (much like this package you and Rob have got!) and do I want individuals to be the ones who come through the door and convince their organisations to further invest, or do I also offer some lower price entry points for organisations too. It's such a minefield when I've not done it before! But I'm glad to be exploring it and challenging the assumptions I am carrying about my worth and what people will pay.
Feedback from people on my package
Well... I've had three chats so far to test my workshop and had some unexpected outcomes. The key takeaway was that my workshop will be beneficial for my ideal client... I just need to make sure that it is marketed so that it speaks to their biggest challenges, and that it is accessible for them (so I get it paid for by large organisations, Councils or peak bodies, or sessions I run myself that are self-funded don't price people out). Things I learnt from my catch ups: • who my ideal client isn't - there are people who aren't ready for the things I want to offer. And that's ok. • there are people out there I can partner with who can help me strengthen my offers, refine the way I do things, and connect me with other people or resources that will help me grow my ideas and business. • I'm on the right track! Others have run similar workshops to the one I want to run. Mine has a very specific lens and aligns with my goal to elevate the expertise and influence of leaders of volunteer engagement, but the workshop has been valued by people who attended those run by two others I have connected with. I'm looking forward to the second session @Jodie Willmer and @Robert Nagy
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Tracey ONeill
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I’m a Volunteer Engagement Consultant here to help bold leaders level up their influence and transform volunteering.

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