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OAT (mosaic) and OAp(Diagnostic labs) comparison
I"m noticng the OAp not only has several additional markers then Mosaic, there are some markers that are not the same metabolites. Here's just 1 example: Mosaic uses uracil and thymine as indication of folate metabolism Yet DL uses figglu acid. Biotin has a different metabolite. Here's another: mosaic uses 2 hydroxybutyric. DL uses a-hydroxybutyric. After looking this up, they are the same markers. So it seems like perhaps some are the same markers but called differently and others are not? We probably could use more discussion on this.
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@Mackay Rippey Not sure if Dr Nicola has ever run a OAp. THe test comparisons she did was with lyme labs and mycotoxin test
comparison of the OAp and OAT(mosaic)
To those who are running the new OAp, I'm seeing it has a few markers in addition to Mosaic's OAT. Are you noticing any markers on OAp that are not on OAT and you would like to see them on OAp? OAp does look cheaper too.
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cutting/self harm
What are some things to consider when someone is cutting themselves? neurotransmitter imbalance?what else?
pcsk9
Has anyone seen where both were variated?
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FGA Case Analysis Template & SNP Reference
Greetings, I'm wanting to know if anyone in the group, or Emily, has an Genomics focused case analysis template, and a SNP reference sheet organized by body systems. In doing this work, these are critical if doing it on a deep level. I'm developing a 3-tier level online program that has the centerpiece of the FGA testing results. If we are to be great practitioners, it is imperative that we have a way to organize the material well to be able to present the findings in an efficient and clear way. I'm needing support around getting this started in a systematic and efficient way. Any suggestions, thoughts, or support is greatly appreciated. Of course, we all come up with our own ways of tackling this huge feat. Is there a SNP guide that exists to help put this all together? Or must we create our own? Hopefully someone will response with supportive thoughts very soon. Thank you all! Noah
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I don't have a concrete way to look at snps because it's a bioindividual approach. So depending on how the client is presenting and/or what results I see in labs will guide me as to which pathways to look at. I've noticed an influx of new genetic tests on the market that are saying 'if you have this gene, eat this way'. or "if you have this gene, you need to take this supp'. This IMO (and I'm sure Emily's view too)is not the way to go about it. Having a gene does NOT mean it's presenting with symptos. We need to look at the labs, get the person's symptomology and history to determine if genes are presenting. On the flipside of that, if we see a person's genetic makeup, we may want to run some labs to confirm. Ex;: if you see a person has HFE gene variants, then run an iron panel to determine if it's presenting. Seeing genetics gives us tips to look in certain areas. I also find it helps to create an excel spreadsheet for genetics. After each call, whatever gene was discussed and how to support it and perhaps mechanism of action, I include in my spreadsheet so that I can reference back to it. As you're aware, genetics are complex and not easily remembered. Hope this helps.
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Just keep something in mind Noah. Most of us on the Thurs calls have been together since the beginning so we've gone over many many case studies which helps. It always helps to hear things over and over.
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Terrie Bilinski
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Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner; Functional Genetic & Nutritional Consulting

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