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Employers are not Debt Collectors
In case it could be useful to someone: Your employer isn't a debt collector. Send them this and follow through if they don't cease.. [Your Name] [Your Address] [City, Postcode] [Date] To: [Employer's Name / HR Department] [Company Name] [Company Address] Subject: Formal Notice – Unlawful Wage Deductions for Alleged Council Tax Arrears Dear [Employer's Name], I write to formally put you on notice that any deductions from my wages relating to alleged council tax arrears claimed by [Council Name] are unlawful unless and until the council provides clear and lawful evidence of their entitlement to enforce such deductions. Legal Framework Governing Wage Deductions 1. The Requirement for a Legally Executed Liability Order In Leighton v Bristow and Sutor [2023], the High Court reaffirmed that enforcement actions, including wage deductions, cannot proceed without a valid and properly executed Liability Order issued by a Magistrates’ Court. Such an order must: • Be properly executed, bearing the court’s official seal and the signature of an authorized officer; and • Clearly specify the liability in question. Without a valid Liability Order meeting these statutory requirements, any attempt to enforce the alleged debt is rendered unlawful under the Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992. 2. Employer Obligations Regarding Wage Deductions Under the Employment Rights Act 1996 (Section 13), deductions from an employee’s wages are only lawful if: • Required by statute; or • Made with the express consent of the employee. In this case, the statutory basis for deductions hinges entirely upon the existence of a valid Liability Order. Without such an order, deductions are unlawful, as established in Southfield v British Telecommunications plc [1998] IRLR 18. Employers must also act reasonably to verify the lawfulness of deductions. As stated in Cambridge and County Developments (Contractors) Ltd v Hughes [1973] QB 522, an employer is under a duty to investigate the validity of any purported statutory authority before acting on it.
Employers are not debt Collectors
This has been forwarded to me and in case it's useful for some, here it is: Your employer isn't a debt collector. Send them this and follow through if they don't cease.. [Your Name] [Your Address] [City, Postcode] [Date] To: [Employer's Name / HR Department] [Company Name] [Company Address] Subject: Formal Notice – Unlawful Wage Deductions for Alleged Council Tax Arrears Dear [Employer's Name], I write to formally put you on notice that any deductions from my wages relating to alleged council tax arrears claimed by [Council Name] are unlawful unless and until the council provides clear and lawful evidence of their entitlement to enforce such deductions. Legal Framework Governing Wage Deductions 1. The Requirement for a Legally Executed Liability Order In Leighton v Bristow and Sutor [2023], the High Court reaffirmed that enforcement actions, including wage deductions, cannot proceed without a valid and properly executed Liability Order issued by a Magistrates’ Court. Such an order must: • Be properly executed, bearing the court’s official seal and the signature of an authorized officer; and • Clearly specify the liability in question. Without a valid Liability Order meeting these statutory requirements, any attempt to enforce the alleged debt is rendered unlawful under the Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992. 2. Employer Obligations Regarding Wage Deductions Under the Employment Rights Act 1996 (Section 13), deductions from an employee’s wages are only lawful if: • Required by statute; or • Made with the express consent of the employee. In this case, the statutory basis for deductions hinges entirely upon the existence of a valid Liability Order. Without such an order, deductions are unlawful, as established in Southfield v British Telecommunications plc [1998] IRLR 18. Employers must also act reasonably to verify the lawfulness of deductions. As stated in Cambridge and County Developments (Contractors) Ltd v Hughes [1973] QB 522, an employer is under a duty to investigate the validity of any purported statutory authority before acting on it.
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Equity Reading
As always, I try to find all we need to succeed, and after today's meeting on Equity, NAP Skool already had all of the documents/reading material that Andrew mentioned he uses! 👀 I should have been a processional Horder 😁 Enjoy! 🕵️‍♂️ Burtons-Legal-Thesaurus-5th (Andrew uses 4th Ed, I cannot find it, so here is the 5th) https://www.skool.com/not-a-person-3150/classroom/69c06579?md=dc7c841cf92a4d629b3dc81e4d7aa42e Blacks Law 6th Ed. https://www.skool.com/not-a-person-3150/classroom/69c06579?md=2bcd0c30611c437c993d928562f69ac0 Manual-on-Commercial-Law-1948 Levine/Lincoln https://www.skool.com/not-a-person-3150/classroom/69c06579?md=e2caf3be96a3406bb3f39d141efb8972 Bible https://www.skool.com/not-a-person-3150/classroom/69c06579?md=8759870861f14ef89d7fd487fe069b1b
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Hi All Just come across this and thought it might be of interest: You could take the Birth Certificate (Sea) and the Certificate of Live Birth (Land) to present you have the right to stand on both the "Land" and the "Sea" Then ask the Judge, bring out his Bond, his Oath, his Identification, to prove he has the lawful right to sit behind the Bench (Bank) He will refuse to give it because he doesn't have any right to try a living man as he is acting a Foreign Corporation (Corpse) having no real standing in Common Law meaning he can be held liable for bring false claims against a living man which means he could be the one who loses his Dominion to the Mineral & Energy Wealth should he accept to show you his true self The book is called the UCC connection how to free yourself from legal Tyranny By all means, study the information and verify the massive amount of it that can be verified as what the "law" of man system is claiming upon you, but do not look for actual solutions to the problems created by the "law" of man system within the "law" of man system. The claims of the system are illegitimate by their very nature The entirety of this knowledge fall's within the legal ("law") system created by man to deceive and control others. The "law" of man system aka government, statism "authority", is either illegitimate or redundant. The only legitimate law is natural law, a free name for which is natural principles, which goes hand in hand with true anarchy. This is correct, but they will still often ignore your authority if you consent to be identified as a citizen, which includes being called "Mister" or "Miss" or "Mrs." or by any title whatsoever, and also if you fail to identify your own capacity as a private non-citizen national and don't have a record of that political status. Every 5 years you have to file a UCC-1 to stake claim on any bonds they bring against you. The UCC-1 shows you are the beneficiary and must be paid first for any claim brought against you. When in court ask if they have a claim against you.
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@Helen Reade No, sorry Helen,😀
Tuesdays drop in new time 🚨
Hi all, I am moving the time for our drop-in coffee chat on Tuesdays to 8pm from the 23rd June onwards. The aim is to help more to attend. 👍 Link in the calendar section on NAP Skool Hope to see you there! 💃 Gazza
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Thoughtful of you Gary. Thanks. I’ll attend when I can. Best to you.
PCNs
Is this another solution for PCNs? Many people do not realise there is a legal distinction between the “owner”, the “registered keeper”, and the actual driver of a vehicle. Under civil traffic enforcement legislation, councils will usually pursue the registered keeper whose details are obtained from the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency. This does not automatically prove who was driving at the time of the alleged contravention. In many parking and traffic enforcement cases, the process follows several stages: 1. Initial Penalty Charge Notice or enforcement notice 2. Notice to Owner 3. Charge Certificate 4. Order for Recovery 5. Statutory declaration or witness statement process 6. Enforcement action by certificated enforcement agents Where a 'person' genuinely did not receive the original Notice to Owner or earlier statutory documents, the law provides a remedy through the Traffic Enforcement Centre process. For certain traffic enforcement matters, a PE3 statutory declaration or TE9 witness statement may be submitted, depending on the type of enforcement involved. This must normally be witnessed by a court officer, solicitor, or authorised person. (So you pop to the local court) The declaration is not an argument about guilt or innocence. Instead, it is a sworn statement confirming one of several limited statutory grounds, such as: • The original notice was never received • Representations were made but no reply was received • The penalty was paid • An appeal was lodged in time If accepted, the enforcement process is generally reverted back to an earlier stage, allowing the matter to be reconsidered lawfully. In practice, many authorities may decide not to continue enforcement after a reset, particularly where the administrative cost exceeds the value of the alleged debt. However, there is no guaranteed “infinite loophole”, and repeated or dishonest statutory declarations may amount to contempt of court or fraud. The key point is this: The statutory declaration process exists to preserve procedural fairness where notices were not properly served, not to permanently extinguish liability automatically.
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When you get a yellow plastic notice placed under your windscreen wiper, I think it addresses the matter to "the driver" but we aren't the driver are we? A "driver" is one who is carrying out commercial business, by definition. So that doesn't apply to us.
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I wonder whether the fail/success rate relates to the mindset of the council employee(s) who process these PCNs. Keen as mustard or can’t be arsed. Currently I am writing to the CEO of the Tunbridge Wells borough council thanking him for the offer to contract and quoted fee of £10,000 to do so. (That’s Noel’s strategy ). Also quoting GDPR and Data Protection Act. Etc. No reply to Notice No 1. Repeat Notice No 2 posted yesterday. No 3 due in 7 days time. So far, the Charge Certificate of 29 April has not been followed up. Will keep you informed. Good health to all. 😊😊 Thanks for all you are doing Gary.
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For love of travel: a PA in Diplomatic Service. Friends said Be An Actor. Later ran my own theatrical agency. Now exhibiting artist & ceramicist.

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