I know I'm going to get a load of backlash for the following, this evening was the first wear of my gloves, I have'nt used or had any experience with j4ksports gloves, as advised I washed the glives through with luke warm water and to dry naturally until this evening, no glove glue was used, only water and good old natural spit. I'm sorry to say, they had as much grip as a new frying pan, I would class myself as a pretty good keeper with the experience and knowledge of how to dampen a shot and take the ball to ground, every shot tonight was paried because there was no adhesion, ball to glove, has anyone else used these gloves and had a different experience. Maybe its the design of the palm and latex, I will try again. Just to say that i am tottally transparent, and not negative about the glove or brand, I have brought another pair of gloves with a smooth palm.