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Yet another hay debate on facebook seems it never ends
Let’s correct one major misunderstanding here: pet rabbits, meat rabbits, show rabbits, and breeding rabbits are not different animals with completely different digestive systems. Their basic nutritional needs overlap heavily. I have an entire section in my nutrition course on feeding by lifestyle, and the differences are not nearly as dramatic as pet groups pretend. The real issue is not “pet rabbit versus meat rabbit.” The real issue is whether the ration is balanced. A properly formulated pellet is not junk food. It is not “rabbit cereal.” It is a complete ration designed to deliver fiber, digestible energy, protein, amino acids, vitamins, and minerals in a consistent form. That consistency is exactly why pellets became the standard in domestic rabbit production and research feeding. The other myth that needs to die is “pellets make rabbits fat.” No. Excess calories make rabbits fat. Poor ration control makes rabbits fat. Low activity plus overfeeding makes rabbits fat. Pellets themselves do not magically create obesity. A correct pellet builds muscle, supports organ function, maintains body condition, fuels growth, supports lactation, supports coat production, and keeps the rabbit from trying to survive on a nutritionally diluted hay pile. Protein is not the enemy. Digestible energy is not the enemy. A balanced ration is not the enemy. If a rabbit is getting fat on pellets, the answer is not “pellets are bad.” The answer is that the feeding rate, energy density, activity level, genetics, age, reproductive status, or total ration needs evaluated. Hay can be used as forage, enrichment, or part of a ration. But hay is not automatically balanced, and it is not a substitute for understanding nutrition. Rabbits need appropriate fiber. They do not need internet folklore dressed up as care advice.
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I'm so sorry this has taken a minute..
Part of why the nutrition modules stalled for a bit… I broke my headset, so editing basically came to a halt. Good news though, I finally got a replacement. I just finished recording the fats and energy module, and I’m planning to knock out a few more tonight. After that, I’ll be moving on to finishing the audio for the last two classes so we can wrap this section up. If you’ve already picked up the course and gone through the scripts or the Google Classroom material, I’d really appreciate feedback. That helps me tighten things up before everything is fully finalized. I do have study guides planned for each module, I was just holding off until the videos were done so everything lines up cleanly. After that, the plan is to convert everything into proper slide decks inside Google Classroom. Once this course is fully up, I already have the genetics course roughly mapped out… so that’s the next big build.
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I'm so sorry this has taken a minute..
Bad veterinary advice part 2
3. “Pellets should be 20–25% crude fiber.” Crude fiber is an outdated, blunt metric. It does not reflect fermentability or gut function. Modern nutrition uses NDF/ADF. You can hit 20% crude fiber and still have a poor gut profile. This is textbook oversimplification. 4. Vegetable list as a core diet component. This is management advice, not nutritional science. Vegetables contribute water and some micronutrients, but they are inconsistent, low-density, and can destabilize the cecum if overused. The “add one at a time, remove if soft stool” line is reactive because the base recommendation is already unstable.
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Bad veterinary advice. Part 3
7. Transition chart (alfalfa → grass hay, reduce pellets) This is ideology, not evidence. There is no biological requirement to shift to grass hay dominance. The only required shift is from growth formulation → maintenance formulation. The hay emphasis is cultural, not scientific. 8. “¼ cup pellets per day for an average rabbit” This is one of the worst offenders. Fixed volume feeding ignores body weight, metabolic rate, production status, and genetics. Intake should be based on grams per kg body weight and condition scoring, not a kitchen scoop.
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Bad veterinary advice. Part 3
What is still being parroted by vets part 1
A treasure trove of bad veterinary advice made the rounds in a pet group recently. These screenshots are from a flyer that a clinic is still handing out to rabbit owners. The problem is that most of the information is 30+ years out of date and doesn’t reflect current research or real-world feeding outcomes. I’ll be doing a point-by-point breakdown in 18 points, confirming what holds up and debunking what doesn’t. Let's start with nutrition. Claim :1 “A sound diet consists of hay, pellets, and vegetables.” Response: a pet-model assumption, not a biological requirement. A complete pelleted ration already meets macro/micronutrient needs. Hay and vegetables are optional management tools, not mandatory dietary pillars. Decades of controlled feeding trials (Lebas, de Blas, Gidenne) are built on complete feeds, not hay-heavy diets. Claim 2. “Hay is essential… reduces GI problems.” Response: Not accurate. Fiber is essential. Hay is one source of fiber, and an inconsistent one. What matters is fermentable fiber fractions (NDF/ADF balance), not loose hay intake. Properly formulated pellets provide controlled fiber that stabilizes cecal fermentation more reliably than variable hay quality. Next part tomarrow. For a deeper dive go check out the nutrition course and ask questions on Google classroom.
What is still being parroted by vets part 1
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3. “Pellets should be 20–25% crude fiber.” Crude fiber is an outdated, blunt metric. It does not reflect fermentability or gut function. Modern nutrition uses NDF/ADF. You can hit 20% crude fiber and still have a poor gut profile. This is textbook oversimplification. 4. Vegetable list as a core diet component This is management advice, not nutritional science. Vegetables contribute water and some micronutrients, but they are inconsistent, low-density, and can destabilize the cecum if overused. The “add one at a time, remove if soft stool” line is reactive because the base recommendation is already unstable.
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Mary Margaret Conley
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