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ICM; E-Mail reading, triaging, sorting, sending the right information to the right spot
Hello, I am getting the first customers through consulting and building icm folder systems, and an obvious place to start seems to be their email account. Many companies are saying they are overwhelmed with the sheer amount of emails that come in and being able to answer them, find which needs their attention first, and then prepare the information to be sent to booking systems or CRM systems. To me it feels like a pretty easy process, and then I see there are still quite a few AI companies that are doing well, and email is their main focus. This signals to me that maybe it is not that easy. Who has experience creating ICM folders to support companies with the flow of information through emails??
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@Markus Ibrom I haven’t thought about that or even tried jev yet. The waiting list was full last time I checked. The system is for a customer not sure I would combine jev with the current chat gpt? Do you have experience with that.
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@Mofedul Alam Joy thanks your the best you have saved me a couple of times already. It is hard enough for me sometimes to find an email in a stack replies in Gmail and so I thought this could be tricky part. Instant testing this week fingers crossed.
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One of my clients had a meeting organized so I could talk to his boss. When I got there, the boss looked at me with some serious vibes. Kinda of...nothin can impress me. He Straight up said : I've been using Claude for the past year in projects, so i'm pretty much up to date on everything happening. This is waste of time. I said : Excellent news, that means you are ready for the next step! He showed me his projects page and then I told him how to restructure his folders and add the relevant files. I told him he'd get 10x what hes getting now using the same AI. If this goes to plan and he manages to use that knowledge, then a lot of doors will open for me. Will follow in 2 days to check on his progress. This is all thx to this community. Thanks Clief for sharing and helping others. I can't wait to be good enough to contribute some back :)
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@Jake Van Clief I am living and working in Germany and there are a strong feelings and regulations around data protection. I see this as a positive thing, and it is very often used as a showstopper to block all forward movement. Most medium-sized companies right now do not have any affordable and GDPR-compliant solutions. Claude Code/Cowork or OpenAi Work/Codex run and store data through American servers, which breaks compliance as soon as they run personal data through the software. I see potential for new solutions. Will Eduba move at sometime to be GDPR compliant?
🏆 WEEKLY COMP #14: THE CONTROL 🏆
🎁 $1,000 IN EDUBAWARE CREDITS 🎁 One winner takes it. 📋THE CHALLENGE Build a folder. Then prove it earns its place. Every comp so far has assumed the folder helps. Nobody has had to show it. This week you run a control: same model, same questions, no folder. Then the same questions with the folder. You commit both runs, raw, and you report what actually changed. This week's deliverable is a folder plus the evidence that it beats no folder. 🎯PICK YOUR FOLDER Any specialist you want. Coach, researcher, editor, auditor, translator, something new. The folder is not the test. The test is the test. Pick a domain where you can write five to ten questions a stranger could grade. Questions with checkable answers. If the only way to judge the answer is taste, the control will not tell you anything. A few sparks: - A folder that answers questions about one codebase you can pin in the repo - A folder that answers policy questions against one document you ship in reference/ - A folder that handles one support category against a shipped FAQ - A folder that answers questions about one dataset you include - A folder that converts one input shape, graded against a spec in reference/ The pattern is the same every time. The answers have to live somewhere a mod can check. 🔥 THE ANGLE THIS WEEK Last comp was The Translator. The test was three runs on the same input to see if the shape held. The Control points that same test at the folder itself. In the Cartographer round, Marcelo ran a control before he changed a single card. Same model, same four questions, no map. It got the answers right, slower and with more reading, and it found two things his cards understated. He fixed both. Then after he rebuilt the map, the model read six files instead of ten and quoted the README's own rule as its reason for skipping the code. That is the only comp result all year that told us something we did not already believe. This week everyone runs one. Three things separate a real control from a demo:
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I went back to my Competition Entry for the Operator (Comp #7), where I built a folder system based on the Continuous Discovery Methodology from Teressa Torres. I tested it against plain Claude. Same model, Sonnet 5.5, 8 questions written cold by an agent that never saw the folder, committed before any run. A fresh agent graded the answers blind. At its core it is a methodology to use to speak with users of your product asking specifically for real user experiences, not general questions (what do you like about the product). It is valuable tool to use when to explore the direction or features that could make your product better in the hands of the users. The folder didn't win. Both arms got all 8 right. Each had one shaky answer, on different questions. And on the trap question, where the right answer is "there's no story in this interview", the folder still built a fragment of a map and filed an opportunity. My read: Torres is public, very structured, and widely taught, so the model already knows her well. Restating her definitions in a folder adds little. If the folder earns its place, it's in the workflow across many interviews, and these questions didn't test that. That's the next control. This finding supports the recursive learning of our systems and our folders. I am sure more niche knowledge is not so easy to recreate by the agents. Lets see what the other entries show. Repo: https://github.com/jacksoncalling/thecontrol/tree/main
Working on Customer ICM Folders in their environment
Hello everyone, I am starting to work with my first consulting customers, where I am bringing icm into their operations and helping them make their operations readable and actionable for humans and machines. I see that I will want to be able to have access to their folders with my agents to help them shape them instead of getting on their computers. Right now the clients are just small companies. I am wondering how others are doing this. I know some will say eduba. I am wondering if anyone is having the customers create github repos and then give me access to it so we can work together on them. Or what are other options that you have that work well?
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