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MMT responds to their critics
This is a great clarifying piece from the thought leaders of MMT responding to their critics. They make the point to differentiate between a generalized description of money mechanics vs. specific implementation like the U.S. model. As has pointed out in the past, they clearly understand how the U.S. system clearly works under today’s self selected fiscal and legal constraints, such as the TGA must be funded prior to spending, no Treasury overdraft at the Fed, and the Fed cannot buy bonds directly from the Treasury. Supporters of MMT often conflate the need for the Fed/CB to create new Reserves by spending or lending, with the Treasury creating new reserves by Gov spending, but which the authors do not. Anything here anybody would like to point out or discuss? Anything anybody would like to add?
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@Gerard Borg “Already shown here” No, a model can’t ’create’ new Reserves, new CB Liabilities, you have to show when/where/how the CB created them (through Asset acquisition/BS expansion). In your case, you seem to believe the Treasury can somehow create new reserves, new CB Liabilities, so please explain how/when/where the Treasury creates those.Running a model that shows new reserves is a reflection of your assumptions, how you programmed your model, which is no bueno. Your continued failure to stop and really think this through results in. Hindrance mistakes. Once you fully grasp the only origin of new Ressrves is CB BS expansion, you will finally be able to understand the money mechanics which shows Treadury spending and Tresdury Deficit spending DOES NOT RESULT in a net increase in total Ressrves, no new net Ressrve creation. It’s very simple, you are unable to show any exceptions, yet you keep promoting this insane idea. “You need DEBK + T-bond salees + Deficit spending + System Dynamics + OMOs to explain the causational effects that produce the current state of the financial system from any previous point in time” None of this changes the first principles of money, which makes it irrelevant. This is very sloppy thinking in the part of an engineer, there is no wizard behind the curtain, Reserves ONLY increase when the Fed increases then, agreed? And the Treasury does not and cannot force the Fed to create new reserves, agreed? So ANY story to the contrary is total irrational nonsense. “The separation between fiscal and monetary authorities is a fiction that does not obviate MMT.” A public demonstration of total ignorance. Congress and Treasury undertake fiscal policy, but do not create money, they spend existing money via Treasury. The Fed does not undertake fiscal Policy, only monetary policy, they create money but do not make it available directly fir Treasury spending, they do not find fiscal Policy directly.
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@Gerard Borg in your ravel… 1. We know the first step is the CB expanding their BS buying High Quality Liquid Assets HQLA from banks, in this case bonds, because as captain obvious knows, we must have reserves created via bank Asset Swap with the Fed for Ressrves to exist and be able to used by banks to pay taxes and buy bonds, agreed? 2. We know the second step is bank lending, otherwise in your example we will not have deposits, agreed? 3. Step 3 looks like the public pays taxes, which reduces deposits, and reduces Ressrves at banks. This increases Treasury assets, agreed? 4. The next step is Treasury expands their BS by selling bonds. The Treasury is showing under assets +bonds, but bonds are a Liability for Treasury, and the asset is reserves received in the amount of the bond sale. Treasury BS expansion results in +A (+reserves) and +L (+bonds), agreed? 5. The next step is Treasury spends tax receipts or bond sale receipts, -A (-reserves), which transfers Reserves to the receiving bank of the payee +A (+reserves), agreed? 6. You show the CB Liability Swap on taxes and bond sales, moving existing Ressrves into Treasury, and then show the other way for Gov spending, where the receiving bank of the payee has received an asset from Treasury +A (+reserves), agreed? 7. The next step is the receiving bank has new Assets (+Reserves), and creates a new Liability, (+deposits), which expands the bank’s BS, agreed? 8. The nonbank sector receives a new deposit from Gov spending +Assets (+deposits), agreed? Where do we disagree if anywhere? From your perspective, what am I missing that’s important?
Is this BoE article the best article ever written by a central bank on modern money mechanics?
To me, this is the most iconic article on money ever written, and left us is with this:: “Lending creates deposits” That’s the beginning of the end for traditional neocon models…or maybe just the end! It was so powerful I extrapolated it into a 300+ page book with 40 charts: https://a.co/d/4nRyMJs What have you read by a central bank that you thought was insightful? Please post links or papers, feel free to share commentary…
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@Demetrios Gizelis spittin’ straight talk! NBT - Nothin’ But the Truth! You should publish this somewhere… Amen brother!
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@Ellen Braddock Thx Ellen. Have you read the attached article? Were you aware ‘Banks create deposits when they lend.’
MMT’s 7 Inconvenient Truths
There are a few people I greatly respect for their wisdom in economics and the monetary system who are fans of MMT, and they have tried to explain to me what MMT is and how it works. The major MMT premise from what I can gather is something like this: "The Government issues money to spend first, and receives tax revenue and bond sales revenue later, so tax and bond sales revenue do not fund government spending and deficits don’t matter because the Gov can always issue new money to pay off the bonds." MMT as a whole can be summarized from what I have read primarily by some version of the 11 arguments below: 1. Gov tax receipts and bond sales revenue do not fund Gov spending. 2. The Gov issues new money to pay Gov bills. 3. The Fed issues new money for the Gov to spend by crediting the account of the Gov at the Fed. 4. The Bank of England issues new money for the Gov to spend by crediting the reserve accounts of the banks of Gov payees, paying Gov bills on the Government’s behalf. 5. Gov deficit spending causes negative Gov equity and positive public equity by the Gov printing more money to cover deficit spending. 6. The Gov sells bonds to reduce the supply of reserves and influence interest rates. 7. The Gov cannot go bankrupt and Gov deficits and debt aren’t a problem because the Gov can always print more money to pay off Gov debt. 8. What matters when the Gov runs a deficit is whether there is excess capacity in the real economy to put the money to use, and we should increase Gov deficit spending until inflation starts, which only happens when there is not any more capacity absorb new money, so new money at that point just starts to increase prices. 9. Interest rates should be 2% (or lower) to maximize output in the real economy, and deliver economic opportunity to the most amount of people, ideally everyone. 10. Gov deficits should not be feared and should be run to achieve full employment, otherwise we are wasting the opportunity to deliver full production, and build the largest economic pie for the everyone to share.
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@Gerard Borg “We are going around in circles. When you asked me questions I gave answers. You need to address my responses.” I asked you follow up questions, which you ignore. That’s why you are not learning, you are not thinking it through all the way…and that’s because you are not answering my questions. If you did we’d be on to the next topic 6 months ago! “Bank reserves and NBNFS deposits both increase after deficit spending.” No. Reserves are Fed Liabilities, and are transferred from TGA to banks, no net change, no net increase. Banks had previously provided 100% of all reserves in the TGA through taxes or bond sales to the public, so 100% preexisting reserves transferred to TGA, received by TGA then spent, hence Liability Swap. No net new reserves. Deposits were reduced when customers via banks paid taxes or bought bonds, which is how the TGA was funded by receiving the underlying existing Reserves. When the TGA spends those reserves, they are returned to the banking sector, which is where they were created by the CB expanding their BS to accommodate banks swapping their assets for reserves. Simple. No new net reserves. No new net deposits from public taxes or bond purchases after TGA spends these funds. Literally “borrow then spend.” Only net new deposits or net increase in the money supply is from banks buying and holding bonds, which transfers reserves to the TGA, and then TGA spending those reserves. This results in banks expanding their liabilities and creating new deposits for customers, which expands the money supply.. I have been saying exactly this for 6 months, and provided you charts in the summer showing you, who buys the bond matters, as it determines the net effect on deposits. If you believe your model shows deficit spending creates new reserves, you have to know ‘why?’ And Who? When? What’s the DEBk for that creation? Providing a colored chart is not explaining why. Until that time it looks like a modelling error on your part, and I am not arguing with you about system dynamics, no new rabbit holes, only money mechanics.
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@Gerard Borg “Show this using Ravel OR show how what you say happens in my Ravel.” You last ravel we discussed showed no new net Reserves after Treasury deficit spending, or after Gov spending. Remember? It was much simpler to show you the Truth. “This ignores causation (Ravel system dynamics) - should be "Deposits were reduced when customers via banks used bank deposits previously created by TGA spending to pay taxes or buy bonds." Atomic transactions. Banks create deposits when they lend, not the Treasury. The origin of the process is Treasury receiving tax revenue. It repeats annually. Every year, Tressury has no money, then receives tax payments. There was no Treasury spending prior to the public paying taxes, agreed? Same for next year, agreed? Same for bond sales, no deficit spending by Treasury until the TGA is pre-loaded, which only happens when they sell bonds. “>When the TGA spends those reserves, they are returned to the banking sector, which is where they were created by the CB expanding their BS to accommodate banks swapping their assets for reserves.<<“ “Inaccurate. If I try to translatre my Ravel into the language that we have been using then it would read,” “When the TGA "spends", the Fed transfers Transfer is a word you use to move something from one place to another, in this case Ressrves, so a ‘transfer’ of reserves.. “a portion of the TGA balances to banking sector reserve accounts of targetted banks belonging to the targetted recipients. “ Yes “These newly created Created implies ‘newly created’ Ressrves. This did not happen, and you can’t have a transfer and then creation, one or the other. “bank reserve assets are offset” No offset, that’s a specific term in accounting. “by newly created bank deposit liabilities corresponding to the deposit account assets of the targeted spending recipients." Bank BS expansion. “The bank reserves and deposits are new money.” Same mistake over and over and over. Deposits are new, but not Reserves.
Modern Money Transactions - When Reserves & Deposits Are And Are Not Created.
A. Tax and spend creates no new net reserves and no net new deposits. Public paying taxes reduces public Assets -Assets (-deposits) Bank contracts BS making tax payments: -Assets (-reserves) -Liabilities (-deposits) Fed facilitates bank payments to UST via Liability Swap: -Liabilities (-reserves Treasury) +Liabilities (+reserves receiving bank) Treasury increases assets receiving taxes +Assets (+reserves) —-Treasury Spends—- Treasury spending causes a reduction in UST Assets: -Assets (-reserves) Fed facilitates UST payments to banks via Liability Swap: -Liabilities (-reserves Treasury) +Liabilities (+reserves receiving bank) Banks expand their BS when receiving Treasury payments on behalf of the public +Assets (+reserves) +Liabilities (+deposits) Public receiving Gov payment increases Assets +Assets (+deposits) UST Tax and spend: -D -R +R -R +R +D = 0 Ravel will show the same. —- B. Deficit Spending creates no new net Reserves and no new net deposits when the new bonds are sold to the public. Treasury expands their BS selling bonds: +Assets (+reserves) +Liabilities (Bonds) Public does an asset swap buying bonds: -Asset (-deposits) +Assets (+bonds) Bond buyer’s bank contracts their BS when their customers buy bonds: -Assets (-reserves) -Liabilities (-deposits) —-Treasury Spends Bond Sale Proceeds—- Treasury spending causes a reduction in UST Assets: -Assets (-reserves) Fed facilitates UST payments to banks via Liability Swap: -Liabilities (-reserves Treasury) +Liabilities (+reserves receiving bank) Banks expand their BS when receiving Treasury payments on behalf of the public +Assets (+reserves) +Liabilities (+deposits) Public receiving Gov payment increases Assets +Assets (+deposits) UST Borrow/Bond sale and deficit spend: -D -R +R +Bond -R +R +D = +B No net new reserves or net new deposits, but public equity increases by receiving new deposits equal to the bond, and the Gov equity decreases by amount of bond.
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@Gerard Borg “For the hundredth time, do you have the ability to explain where in your mind these reserves inside the TGA came from? “For the hundredth time, they come from Treasury bond sales” “So what you say - that the TGA must be replenished by the proceeds of bond sales before the government can spend is correct. “This is because the CB creates reserves through OMOs.” Looks like you debunked…yourself. Which is a good thing! CB creates reserves, even captain obvious has always agreed with this. Treasury must sell bonds to the public to BORROW existing reserves before Tressury can DEFICIT spend. Simple.
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@Gerard Borg “Either way, treasury bond auctions follow to recharge the TGA prior to spending.” “After the TGA is charged, spending occurs and the NBNFS make a living.”
Digital Pound Seignorage Creates New Policy Space Financing
When the Fed undertakes Quantitative Easing QE , they expand their Balance Sheet BS when they buy High Quality Liquid Assets HQLA (+A) from banks, and increase their Liabilities (+L) when they issue new reserve account credits in the reserve account of the selling bank, which increases the total supply of reserves. Fed BS: +Assets (+HQLA) +Liabilities (+reserves) This is sometimes mocked by memes showing Powell using the Fed’s ‘money gun,’ and is generally seen as “printing money.” However, the bank is completing an Asset Swap, selling High Quality Liquid Assets HQLA (-Assets), and receiving new reserve account credits, aka ‘reserves’ (+Assets). This means there is not an increase in Assets for banks, no new assets in the banking system, only an increase in the liquidity of bank Assets. Banks do not need reserves to make loans, so this increased liquidity results in no increase in loans or economic activity. And since the Fed sets rates using Interest On Reserve Balances IORB, the increase in bank liquidity has no effect on interest rates, although ample Ressrves can reduce the overnight rate that banks lend excess reserves to each other. So QE doesn’t seem to do much for banks in the current environment.. For the Treasury, they still have to pay Principal & Interest on the bond P&I regardless of who owns it. An interesting reality emerges when we look closely at bond repayment for bonds owned by the Fed. When the Fed receives payment from the Treasury bonds they have purchased, they often or normally ‘reinvest’ the maturing principal by swapping out expiring bonds for new bonds, sometimes called ‘swapping paper.’ However, in some circumstances the Treasury has to complete payment to the Fed, so they sell new bonds and transfer those reserves to When the Fed receives payment from the Treasury for bonds the Fed owns, this contracts the Fed’s BS. Fed BS: -Assets (-bonds) -Liabilities (-reserves) So the Fed owns $4T in UST bonds, but if they do nothing, the Treasury will pay $4T to the Fed and those reserves will be de-issued, and disappear forever.
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@Demetrios Gizelis 🙌
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@Joe Polito For the U.S., maybe, but leverage/debt is the issue. The basis of the UK proposal is a quirk in the monetary system. To see it clearly, let me ask you a question: What happens when a bond matures that is owned by the Fed? This means the Principals is due, so what happens?
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