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Welcome to Clief Notes. Here's where to start.
1. Go check out 📚Navigating The Course to see how to get around and what's here. 2. Start with The Foundation. Concepts, folder architecture, prompting framework. Everything else builds on this. 3. Check in at the bottom of each lesson. Polls, discussion posts, other members working through the same stuff. Use them. 4. When you're ready to build real things join in on our Biweekly competitions and win some real cash. ⭐ Competitions Mega Thread 5. If you are wanting to dive into the masterminds, grab all the past templates, artifacts and resources. Upgrade and head into the The Vault for Premium and The Drawing Room (VIP) for VIP 6. Post your work. Ask questions. Help others when you can. What are you here to build?
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@Ugo Lean Asiegbu let's build, man. On one hand, looking to build lean deal workflow: opportunity research, due dil, underwriting, Negotiation and close. On the other hand, multiunit management workflows. More so experiential multi-unit that has many more moving parts than a standard property management solution. But hey, crawl, walk, run. We'll get there.
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You bet. Let me know how your setup is going. I'm about to call my v1.0 setup done very soon so I can start building. Followed you; just send me a DM whenever. @Ugo Lean Asiegbu
Two systems both say they know the same person. My folder has to pick one.
I am pulling records about the same people out of a few different systems into one folder, so an agent can actually work with them. The merging is not the hard part. The hard part is that the same person shows up three times, slightly differently, and every system is convinced it is the right one. Phone written four ways. Name spelled two ways. One system has the newest email, another has the newest address, and the one with the better data is not the same one twice in a row. Right now I pick a winner per field instead of per record, and I keep the losing values in the same file so nothing disappears quietly. It works. But the file keeps getting fatter, and I am not sure fat but traceable is the right trade for something an agent reads on every request. For anyone whose folder is fed by more than one system: do you settle the conflict once on the way in, or keep both versions and let whatever reads the file choose at the time? And what happens on the day one of those systems changes its mind about a person you had already settled?
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Hey Leo - your use case is more technically advanced than mine, but I think I deal with the same underlying pattern in a different domain. You've got me thinking :). The entities are different, but I think the underlying systems question is the same: how do you maintain one active record from multiple sources without losing traceability. My use case is different in that it isn’t people’s data I’m updating and reconciling, but task data from multiple business units. Here’s the correlation I see: I have, say, 1,000 daily ops tasks recorded and split between 10 business units, each one producing its own volume of data based on tasks planned, scheduled, and completed. Naturally, the architecture will route to the individual unit folders, but what may be relevant here is how it lands and then passes through the Top Level Operations Parent. What this looks like for me: • I have a ledger where all tasks are tracked: coded by unit, unique task number, and all other typical task data points. The ledger acts as the active or canonical state, the version the rest of the system works from. • On the way in, I need to reconcile the previous state of each task on the ledger. This happens on the fly. • I also keep an attached Changelog table to easily trace material changes to the tasks on the ledger. Since this only happens with a handful of daily tasks at any given time, it’s worth highlighting this change history separately. • The raw source data can stay available as a separate layer, rather than forcing the active record to carry every conflicting or historical value. So, basically, I have three layers: the source data, the active ledger, and the changelog. The agent can work from the lean ledger most of the time, while the other layers are still there when it needs to understand how or why something changed. In your shoes, I would be tempted to do something similar: reconcile on the way in and apply a system change code so you know which system prompted the update to the active record.
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Thanks, David! Hey, I fancy myself a systems and ops guy, but pretty green in this area. I've been paying for Claude for 2.5 years, and only now am I starting to feel like I'm getting real traction. Also, I would not be able to reason through half of that without this community. Besides what Jake has put together here, which is amazing, there are some smart cookies in here, so you start picking up a thing or two as you read along. Learn a little, do a little. Break a thing or two. But in about 6 months, I may be kinda dangerous. :). - @David Trammel
I started writing again and I’m loving it.
Ideas and creativity are meant to be expressions of our imagination and experiences combined but I argue that side of life is suffering today. When last did an “original” idea come from you? Now we have thinking partners in AI that can help whip up something very decent for a first draft and that’s what I’ve been doing for a while now. I honestly didn’t plan to write. I was just working on doing more on LinkedIn and as usual I always start with strategy. Well this time, my strategy landed me in writing not just once but up to 3 times a day. Honestly, it has been a refreshing experience and this led me to discovering new ways to work with AI as well. Very refreshing. Have you tried taking a break from AI in any way? What was your experience like?
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@Stephan Vollmer I had a similar chat with a friend this week. "I can't say I have a writing or creative outlet to point to, because I refuse to count all of the "business" thinking and the creativity behind some of it. It's still "work." Maybe it's unfair, but I draw the line at: "Is this something I don't care to monetize?" The greater point though is your Seth Godin share. "Selfish", is not only the right word to us as a qualifier for a hobby, but I would argue that it isn't a hobby if it isn't.
Context with .md files
I just watched the first video of the serie of Jake Van Cleef breakdown, and the biggest thing that stood out to me was leveraging .md files for dialogue/context. It clicked because just as much as databricks came up with ontology and Microsoft fabric as well, the key element is context. But the markdown files simplify the process and allow any users to build their systems locally. It s a similar approach to the wiki llm where all the information is located and routed according to a specific workflow. My main takeaway was .md files allow us to guide properly the workflow and the only drawback is the human factor (errors in the harness) which can be mitigated via an ai review of the harness. The experiment at the end helped me understand the idea of how far this can be pushed. Great stuff! Going forward, I'm going to work on a small workflow and understand it s behavior.
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Yeah, Simon, I was drawn to the brilliance in the simplicity. It's not simple in the "less is more sense. It's more about how, no matter how complex and ambitious your projects are downstream, this allows humans and agents ( to @Nuno Amorim's point) a stable, clear, and manageable foundation. Best of luck @Simon Z .
Sense of Freedom
Woke up this morning and decided to play around with workflow that has been tweaked and worked on for last several weeks. They say that video is louder than words - what do you think?
Sense of Freedom
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Fantastic, Gabriel. It's what I'm aiming for in the next few weeks. Congrats!
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