I deal with my 15 year old daughter, does that count. And those board room types put their pants on the same as you and you are making them money... they are happy you are up there..

Although, do we listen to the customer… was it a suggestion or concentrated discussion; to a point you are a showman.. I definitely see your point too

Last time I swung on the rope I caused a distal biceps tendon rupture; took about 2 years to heal. Sorry to say, the older we get, the last adaptive our body becomes.

@Rodney Thompson Truly... it is amazing that we will spend a ton of cash, wear ourselves out traveling a day or so just to experience what other live within. I still need to plan a trip to the Okefenokee . I remember as kids, maybe it was in a movie, where the Okefenokee swamps were like the deliverance movie where people just did not go and come out alive. Funny how perceptions work. It took me many years before I realized that the paradise I was pursuing was right where my feet were all the time.

@Rodney Thompson I am planning an expedition with you maybe early next year. How early in the spring do you typically start back each year?

@Rodney Thompson yah, but then you are not invited back the next time :-)

@Rodney Thompson True although if the leader does not listen to the team they are leading, that will also be the last invite as a leader in my group :-). I did have this once. I was chosen as the navigator with the map and the compass during a rescue training, I knew exactly where I was and had a group of EMS young bucks telling me I was going the wrong way during the last trek of the day. I calmly tried to explain where we were and how I knew that as a training exercise for them. They had a vocal guy and the others were his buddies outside the training. I always carry two maps, so I marked where they were and resigned my post passing the map off to Mr Vocal. I invited them to continue with me or go there own way. We were in a confined state forest so I knew they could not be lost forever. I showed them the way they wanted to go and showed them the landmarks to look for to get back on track. I knew they would hit a creek or a road no matter what they did and just had to turn right to find base camp. I continued my path and the group followed Mr. Vocal. When I hit base camp, I explained where we were and the conflict. About 45 mins after I was back at camp here they come full of mud head to toe; my understanding they walked into a mud bog. Mr Vocal came over talking about me leaving the team and I said no, the team left the navigator that was chosen before the mission. Then I added the old adage, if someone tells you to jump off a bridge, will you; I was not planning to jump off a bridge because they thought I should, I was tired too. So, to a certain point, our individual safety must come first. A mission is always fluid and we must decide if we are being led a stray at all times. I might have stuck with them if I thought they could get lost, although I had confidence they would make their way safely. They each had a more important lesson that day about respect for each other on the team and once you select a position lead, we commit to their guidance. We had hiked all day and I guided them to every flag and check point. I guess fatigue could have played a part for everyone although again we must always flow as team. Its the stop principal.