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Training question
I have a job for Deedee, I'm attaching the brief. Dee can obviously tug on cue but when she does that she'll bite close to the hand, sometimes even putting her paws on me For this to work I believe it would be better if she'd bite further down the line. How would you train this?
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If it was me I would train a targeting behaviour first. So something that can be tugged on but then can be transferred to the tug of war rope in the right place. Maybe a cloth like a strong hand towel that can be wrapped onto the right place on the tug rope. So if she has a good tug cue you might skip the first steps of marking/clicking the hold of the towel followed by the tug on it etc and move straight to building a high value on the towel. Make it the most amazing new thing you have found and but extra energy into the game. Get her targeting as a chase game on a cord, then a chase from your hand, then a dead toy and then when it has great relevance to her then attach it to the end of the tug rope and snake it around. Next would wrap and tie it in another place on tug of war rope but offer it on a loop to make hitting that bit more likely. Last would be attachment to the place you want her to tug from the brief. Like with everything just how many of the steps are required and how long for depends on the dog but if a keen tugger can move through them pretty quickly and better to break it down smaller rather than skip ahead too fast. If she is a rabid tugger may want to choose a really strong target towel which is not too expensive to replace.
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@Diane Gollowitzer whenever a prop or environmental cue is present you have to decide if the fading of it is not worth the value you gain from it. If you are just trying to adjust a behaviour that is 95% complete you may just be better to try rewarding the correct strike with a big game and not do the big play on a poor hit. Another option is to mark and reward separately the correct hit - all depends on the dog and what works. Trick is to recognise what is not working early and have alternate paths to the same goal when needed.
Winter Wins: Keeping up Motivation and Momentum
Hey peeps! After suggesting on another thread that we all help one another out with some motivational training over winter, Nick has suggested I make a separate thread here so, here it goes! A few of us, including me, have been or are struggling to stay motivated to train regularly right now. It's eternally wet, dark, cold, icy, flooded, windy, you have a head cold, you have a busy work life - the list is endless. I have an idea for a "Winter Wins" series but it would be great to hear from you all first how you stay motivated when the days last just 5 minutes and getting out of bed early to train is too painful for words. What are your strategies? Are there particular things (games, tricks) you are training at the moment to motivate yourself? Are there any hardcore "I train in the rain" folks here? I'll share my idea if you share yours!! X
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Have come out of a winter of rain so can sympathise but now a bit of a summer drought in northern NZ so now happy to be outside. Except agility competitions when closing on 30 degrees has its own challenges.
Day 116 - Back posting after a long break
Have not posted since June but have decided to try and make use of the summer weather and Christmas break to take a look at my basic agility and hoopers cues. So today have started the list and broke out the weaves and a couple of jumps for some warmup. In my quiet time have still been training and we passed our USAR operational assessment and so are now one of 8 dog teams in the country who are on call for live find search post disaster. Deployments in New Zealand are rare (only major cyclones and earthquakes) so hopefully never needed.
Day 116 - Back posting after a long break
Day 134: Indications, Impulse Control and Increased Speed
So I know I have sucked lately at the pun titles so here is some alliteration for you. Don't say I never give you anything! Today has been warrrrrrrrm. I have missed the heat to be honest, although it does make training and/or playing for any duration during the day quite difficult. We played with the Chuckit ball today, putting Aster in a down and having her wait until I cue her to go get the ball. She has had breaking early variably reinforced lately so she has gotten a bit of a habit of helping herself. My fault. So she was in a harness with a little tab and I can grab that if she goes to break. Islay also rocked up to provide a bit of competition and add some difficulty to the impulse control. We had fun and I noticed for the first time that Islay was really hunting properly for the ball with some grit! I like this a lot. Indications were OK. My tiny cubes of raw melt so quick in the heat that they stick to the underside of the tin and slow me down so that was annoying 🙄but we moved it onto the lawn for a change and she still did well. For her dinner I got out my contact mat and did a send away to her bowl of food. Ever since watching @Gary Martin's incredible send away video I have this picture in my mind of how I would like my send-aways to look - like that! :)
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The food bowl was just the best thing for her as a young pup - reps everyday and high motivation. Even with toy driven dogs would be only a few who would not be keen for the dinner bowl but some will not be interested in a few kibble in a bowl when not so hungry. With an older dog I would go with what has proven value quicker once the basic behaviour was learnt but still train the 3 parts separately before putting it together. Focus forward without looking around to get direction, speed on the go out to get straight run and then the final behavior (down,sit or wait etc). Once you have all 3 independently use them for a short distance at the beginning of each session before adding distance. Use a variety of obvious markers at first and then start fading them smaller when the dog is confident that they should run and something will be out there. If you can get the reward delivered at a distance that is good (as with the ball thrower I use here) but you can try have the reward preplaced - just watch for them deciding to hunt for it before they get the distance (especially with spaniels) . So keep the odour part low as we are wanting more visual - if using food watch wind direction and use low odour with a good visual marker. Can also use a closed container on the target mat but then you have to get out to open it - but does teach them to stay and wait for release. The speed is all about finding what they really want - toy, food at dinner time when hungry etc - without something to spin them up hard to get the speed.
Day 113-115
Training down in Christchurch on a regional training. Both building search and on the 2 rubble pile built with hides for search. Very cold but she did well and completed the search requirement for her last progress check so is on track to do her operational assessment in the November testing.
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