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5 contributions to Wealth Warehouse IBC Community
Mortgage rates, paying early and WW podcast
Been listening for the better part of a year, and there have been a couple of conflicting points regarding mortgages as I have heard, and been since pondering, so thought I would throw it up here for discussion and see what sticks: - first point, is instead of paying down mortgage, resequence the money into a policy and build uninterrupted compounding there. Do not put a dime more into the mortgage. - The conflict would then be the 30 year mortgage, early on, the amortization schedule the first 5 years pays mostly interest. If you can pay more early on directly to principal, it takes off months on the length of the mortgage. So I think, a rule of thumb I kind of ended up with was this: on a 30 year, take your interest rate, and for that many years, double your principal. (Ie, a 6% mortgage, double your principal the first 6 years. A 2.5% mortgage, double your principal for the first 2 1/2 years of the mortgage.) After that term, divert the extra principal into your IBC policy. I have to run the numbers on this to see how it would play out, but it would seem to make both sides of the advice work. Curtail some of the interest later on, but then make your money work elsewhere as your mortgage gets more ‘efficient.’ Thoughts?
2 likes • 11d
@Dave Hubberts, I like where you’re going with this. Paying extra principal early will save interest and shorten the mortgage. The part I’d want to test is using the mortgage rate to decide how many years to do it. I’m not sure a 6% rate tells us that six years is the right stopping point. To me, it comes down to what each extra dollar can do. Put it toward the mortgage and you save interest, but that money is tied up in the house. Put it into a policy and you build capital you can access and put to work, while accounting for the policy costs. With my 2.25% mortgage, I lean toward keeping that capital available. At 6%, I’d take a closer look at paying extra principal. One thing I appreciate about practicing IBC is that we get to set the rules for our own banking system. Your approach could be a good starting point. Run the numbers, see how it serves you, and if things aren’t working the way you hoped, adjust the rules. I’d be interested to see what you find.
3 likes • 20d
@Travis Fairbairn dark stuff. Just like dividend paying whole life insurance.
The Difference Between Owning Policies and Operating a System
Since joining this community, I have spent far more time reading and learning than posting, so I thought I would share a little about what I have been working through. In November, I was laid off after 17 years with the same company. Almost overnight, roughly 75% of the income supporting our family system disappeared. That experience forced me to look at our family banking system differently. The questions became less about whether something worked well on paper and more about whether the system could actually carry weight: Could we maintain premium continuity? Were our policy loans and other obligations truly serviceable? Had we created useful cash flow, or just accumulated assets? Could we make decisions calmly without forcing outcomes simply because income had changed? Since then, I have been refining the roles of our policies, strengthening our cash-flow structure, separating family and business capital more clearly, documenting internal loans, and creating better rules around when to hold, repay, or deploy capital. Some parts of the system proved stronger than I realized. Other parts exposed gaps that earned our attention. The biggest lesson has been that owning policies and understanding IBC concepts is not the same as having a coordinated operating system. The real value appears when the pieces work together under pressure. This experience has also helped shape the work I am building through GCSA Group. GCSA is not about selling a particular product or chasing yield. It is about helping individuals, families, and small-business owners see what is already present in their cash flow, assets, liabilities, insurance, businesses, and relationships—and bring enough structure to those pieces to make clearer decisions. I am curious whether others here have experienced a moment when their family banking system had to move from theory into practice and carry real weight. What did that moment expose, and what did you change as a result?
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@Christopher Benner IBC is the concept, and a properly structured dividend-paying whole life policy is the vehicle used to put it into practice. My thought would be to focus less on convincing your wife and more on understanding what gives her pause. If you can agree on an amount you can both comfortably commit to, beginning small can be better than waiting for the perfect time. Plant the seed, nurture it, and allow it to grow. When the time is right and opportunity presents itself, the policy gives you options—the ability to act or not act based on what fits your situation.
3 likes • 20d
@David Waller I am glad the conversation gave you some positive energy. That tension between opportunity and responsibility is real, especially when every decision touches the broader cash-flow system. After losing my W-2 income, I spent a lot of time looking for the next opportunity and trying to replace what had been lost. At times, that caused me to force outcomes. The biggest shift for me has been recognizing the system as provision already available to steward, not something that must always be deployed to prove that it works. I still evaluate opportunities, but now with more patience and discernment as life happens. Buying the right asset at the right time is not only about its potential return. It is also about whether it fits your present responsibilities and preserves or expands your options. Sometimes stewardship calls us to move, and sometimes it calls us to wait. The value of the system is having the ability to make either decision from a stronger position.
I'd love to know....
How were you introduced to IBC? What got you started? How many introductions did it take before you "caught" it?
1 like • 23d
@Paul Fugere beat me over the head with IBC for a few months back in 2020 before it finally sank in. Best beating I have ever had—and I thanked Paul again a few days ago when I made my sixth annual premium payment since initially funding the policy. In all seriousness, Paul was simply letting folks he knew and cared about in on this amazing concept—and, of course, building his client book along the way. 😉 Love you, brother. It definitely took more than one introduction. I understood pieces of it, but it took several conversations before I recognized it as an asset with real potential. At that point, however, I did not yet see or use it as part of a complete system. I funded that first policy with capital from a Roth IRA that I could no longer contribute to because of income limitations. I then redirected the cash flow I had been contributing to my 401(k) toward premium payments. Since then, we have funded three additional policies for my wife and me and incorporated six other family policies into our family banking system—ten policies in total, with more to come as the system allows. Including my most recent premium, I have now funded nearly $170,000 into that original policy. Through that policy alone, I have accessed more than $424,000 in policy loans and recycled more than $346,000 back through loan repayments, including interest. That repeated movement is what made IBC real for me. The same pool of capital has been used for family needs, investments, and business opportunities. Still, for the first several years, I largely viewed and used our policies as individual assets. It was not until my layoff last November that I began intentionally defining how the policies, our cash flows, outside investments, and family needs could operate together as an actual family banking system. Losing roughly 75% of our household income forced me to move beyond simply owning good assets and begin understanding how to coordinate them. What initially “caught” in 2020 was the potential of the asset. What has developed since my layoff is a much deeper understanding of the system those assets can support.
Open hours?
Hey friends - would you guys be interested in us opening up call link weekly to facilitate an inter-member live IBC discussion? It would be hosted by our team rather than David or Paul directly (but if they're free they could hop on!) Looking to get a pulse on days/times and interest of something like this as a value ad.
3 likes • 25d
I like the idea as well. Monthly might be a sweeter spot on frequency.
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Erik Westerberg
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Husband & father first, committed to living faithfully, being present with my family, and trusting God to guide the path rather than forcing outcomes.

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