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How does everyone get Claude/AI to consistently follow ICM / Jake methodology on every build?
I've been working on this and have something that somewhat works, but I keep running into pieces that get messy and don't hold up well in practice. My current approach: the image I've attached lives in my AGENTS.md at the root of the project, so any time I build, the AI has the structure to reference. What I'm really after is the best way to implement the ICM system so that anything I build, Claude/AI already knows the way to build and stays inside that structure. Is anyone else doing this? Would love to hear how you've set it up.
How does everyone get Claude/AI to consistently follow ICM / Jake methodology on every build?
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@Don Roy I am, I didn't realize there were downloads, still getting familiar with the group. Thanks for the info.
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@Cody Brown this is useful context, thank you for sharing. I'm really trying to get the foundation of my builds right, I'm newer to all of this, but I can see how a workspace can get out of hand quickly.
New Here, Roast My Folder Structure
Sharing my agents.md folder structure with you all, broken into two images. I'm about two months into this, so I'm still learning. Curious if this looks bloated, if there's a cleaner way to set it up, or if anything here could be improved. Would love to hear what the community thinks.
New Here, Roast My Folder Structure
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@Jim Tyndall HAHAHAHAHAHA, good one!
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@Mira Bradshaw Thank you for your comments. I'm going to need to take sometime to makes sense of all of this, but when I can I'll reply again.
Memory Question
How are you all handling agent(folder) memory and daily continuity in your ICM setups? I know 'the system is the memory,' but if I'm working on a single workflow over multiple days, where are you storing the agent's learned context so it doesn't lose the thread—without accidentally bloating the active load path? Do you have in the instructions to update the context file when done running your process?
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I just asked AI to explain how I do this and here's what it gave me back. This I believe is directly from Jake or someone he recommended. I hope it helps you How I handle memory (STATE.md system) I keep memory in two separate parts: a thin "where we left off" snapshot, and durable knowledge that lives where it's used. STATE.md — the snapshot. Every workspace level has its own MEMORY/STATE.md. It is not a log or journal. It holds only three things: - Active thread — what we're mid-stride on right now - Open loops — parked items to pick up later - Date Finished work drops off, so it never bloats. I can read it in seconds and know exactly where we stand. Durable facts live elsewhere. Anything permanently true — how a tool works, a decision, a process — goes into that folder's CONTEXT.md, never into STATE. STATE is only ever "in progress / parked." Two moves: - Pick up → I read STATE.md, report the active thread and open loops, and change nothing. - Hand off → I verify what's actually done, move any durable knowledge into CONTEXT.md, rewrite STATE thin (open items stay, done items drop, date bumps), and read it back to confirm. In one line: STATE.md = where we left off (temporary, thin). CONTEXT.md = how things work (durable).
(New to ICM?) ICM, explained with a birthday cake 🎂
This post is not for the ICM pro, there will be no talk of gates, scripts, or orchestration! This is for the person just starting out! @Karli Rosario Yes, I mean you! (And anyone else who may just be starting out with ICM) Seriously, I'm glad you found ICM. Let me give you the simplest version of it I know. ICM is a system of structured folders. Yes, the same folders you have been using on a computer for most of your life. The ones you stored photos in, & pirated music from Napster and LimeWire. That's it. I will take you through the process below. When working with AI, a lot of people are doing this 👇 You take a long prompt, feed the entire thing to AI at the beginning of your interaction, and spend time going back and forth with AI trying to get the outcome you want. (I'm not coming for you Karli, you are exceptionally good at this, but ICM will make your outcomes exceptionally better!) What is different about AI and prompting with ICM 👇 You take that same really long prompt and instead of giving it to the AI all at once in the beginning, you break it into steps, and each step gets its own folder, each folder gets its own piece of your large prompt, just 1 step from it, and you ordered the folders by when the steps happen in the workflow. You got it? Good 😊 ❤️‍🔥 -------------------Still a bit unclear, let's bake a cake. 💡 Here's an analogy I have success with (I picked this up way back in my VB programming days): Imagine teaching AI to bake a birthday cake. 🎂 The way most people do it: 👇 One giant prompt. "Bake a cake, here's the recipe, the frosting technique, the decorating style, the candle placement..." Then they hit enter and wait. The AI is juggling 40 instructions at once, and by step 30 it's forgotten step 3. The ICM way: 👇 Break the prompt/workflow into steps. Each step gets a folder. The first folder is your first step. Then you point the AI at the first step, and the first step is 00-birthday-cake: (Point the AI just means giving access to the folders to the AI, through uploading or direct local access, don't worry about that now, let's keep building our cake.)
(New to ICM?) ICM, explained with a birthday cake 🎂
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Great post, can someone tell me what ICM stands for. I'm newer here, I see people refer to it in all the posts and I still don't know what it stands for.
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@Bas Rosario Thank you
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We just broke 40k Members, in less then 4 months... To say I am honored and blown away is an understatement. I feel like yesterday @Matthew Creamer quit his job to sleep on my floor and bust out 15 hour days to build out content, structure and anything else I thought you all would need to make this community worth it. But at the end of the day there is only one thing for me to say. THANKYOU None of this, and I mean NONE of this would be remotely worth it if it wasn't for you all. To list and tag everyone that have contributed so much valuable not just to this community but to me would be nearly impossible. Thank you to every single one of you. Thank you for commenting and helping out on posts Thank you for sharing the wins you have gotten both at home and professionally. Thank you for believing in me and what I am building septically those of you who have been around since the beginning (you know who you are). I cannot tell you how happy my heart is to get in front of you all and teach, talk, ask questions and even learn a lot myself. It is a dream come true to become someone that people can learn from; to share my thoughts and have those very thoughts change the way people live their lives and do their work. It's only the beginning too, I can't wait to see what the rest of the year has in store, and I promise to keep building, working and recording for you all. From the very very very bottom of my heart.....Thankyou! Thankyou to every single one of you reading this and for being part of such an amazing community.
40,000 People....I have only this to say
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Thank you for taking a complex thing and making it so stupidly simple a newbie can understand it. A lot of people in this world want to be seen as sophisticated and misunderstand the power of simplification.
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