I sort of stumbled across a tie knot the other day - on a whim - trying to tie an actually symmetric version of a Half Windsor. Why people try to call that knot symmetrical is beyond me - around 40% more material is on one side of the knot... In case you can't already tell, I'm not a fan of asymmetrical knots. Even a perfectly tied Half Windsor takes about two seconds to recognize as such and one side is always thicker than the other. And a Four-in-Hand knot looks like your Kindergartener tied your tie for you. My preferred knot is a Full Windsor but since I'm a tad over 5'11 (180cm) and still have a 20" (51cm) neck - the extra material in the knot makes tie length an issue, even for relatively longer ties. The knot looks fine on my neck, proportionally, but I usually end up with an unmanageable short end that tries to stick out all day. Anyway, after a few tries, I found something that actually works and I'm wondering what it's called. You start with the lengths where you would normally have them for a Half Windsor but with the back of the tie facing out and the narrow end on top of the wide end. You fold the wide end over the narrow, through the loop while adding a half twist downward, and pull it out toward the other side tightly. Now, you fold it over the knot, wrap it back up through the loop, and pull it down through the newly created loop in the front of the knot. The narrow end will still be facing out but the knot uses a little less material than the Half Windsor, the amount of material on each side of the knot is virtually identical, and the knot doesn't shift to one side when you tighten it up. So, does anyone know what this knot is called?