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Surviving the Void: The Alchemist’s Protocol for Deconditioning
By The Outside Of The Box Editorial Team
Discover how to decondition the ego, survive the void, and reclaim your spiritual sovereignty in this exclusive interview with the host of the Outside Of The Box Podcast.
True authenticity is not a "feel-good" journey; it is a protocol for spiritual survival. In a reality obsessed with external validation, true power is found in the shadows. We sat down with the host of the Outside Of The Box podcast and creator of The Reclamation of Self to discuss the mechanics of the "Unseen," the danger of words as spells, and why the future of humanity depends on our ability to stop being a battery for fear.
Here is the unfiltered truth on becoming the Alchemist of your own reality.
I. The Origin & The Void
Q: What led up to your awakening in 2018?
A: I call it surviving the void. We don’t find self-love by ignoring the darkness; we find it by surviving it. My awakening was born from the loss of a relationship—a moment where the 3D reality collapsed, and I had to choose to transmute that pain into a gain for the collective.
Q: What did being raised in a religious environment do to your awakening? Did it help or hinder?
A: It created a program of externalized power, but my experience was unique because I was raised in a multi-religious setting. I got to see multiple different settings and "flavors" within the religious communities growing up. While that diversity was interesting, the core issue remained: it hindered me by teaching me to look "up" instead of "within."
It reinforced the idea of seeking something outside of myself. True authenticity is only forged when you stop waiting for justice or answers from these outside structures—no matter the varieties you've seen—and start creating that power within your own energy field. This is why I now teach people how to detach from any collective narrative to reclaim their souls.
II. The Mechanics of Deconditioning
Q: If someone wanted to start the journey of self-discovery, what is the first step?
A: You have to stop being the "narrator" of your suffering. My 4-6 week protocol, The Reclamation of Self, starts with Excavation. You must look at the shadow work you’ve been avoiding. You can't "feel good" your way out of a trap; you have to recognize you’re in one first. And I walk them through a process of unlearning, decommissioning the ego, and building a new one.
Q: Can you give us a practical technique to start deconditioning?
A: Use the Dual Citizen approach. Practice being fully present in the "3D"—doing your laundry, raising your kids, going to work—and when a debilitating emotion or "spell" takes over you, observe and detach.
Being an observer rather than becoming it is what I call keeping one foot in the "Unseen”. And that is the beginning of deconditioning the body's response to old trauma.
III. Entities, Fear, and Language
Q: What is driving depression, anxiety, ADHD, and bipolar disorder?
A: These are often the results of being caught in the "emotions of fear." When we aren't authentic, we create a frequency that is easily manipulated. These labels are often just "3D" names for a spiritual survival crisis where the person has lost their "Reclamation of Self."
Q: You mentioned entities use us through our feelings. What happens if they have no negative emotions to feed on?
A: They lose their power. Entities inhabit lower dimensions and feed on things like politics or mass fear because they can't transcend. If we stop feeding into the "problems" they create to induce fear, we stop being their battery. We effectively starve the false reality they’ve built for us. We would need to focus more on a solution and take the problem as a mere fleeting possibility. This gives the problem “awareness” without feeding it.
Q: When did you realize words are spells? Should we speak kindly to ourselves?
A: If words are spells, then most people are walking around hexing themselves. One of the first things I "came into awareness" about during my awakening was that if I "speak over" someone’s weaknesses, I am giving my attention—and thus my energy—to that weakness. We must speak to our bodies and ourselves as the sovereign creators we are.
This awareness was also a catalyst for detaching from old paradigms and people from my past. I wish people were mindful in prayer that solutions come through them, and that they are "being used" to find a solution, which should always be the focus, not the difficulty itself. To surrender is to realize your potential and power through words.
IV. The Bible & Self-Sacrifice
Q: Is the Bible teaching self-sacrificing programming or even "cannibalism"?
A: When you look at "Eat the flesh and blood," you have to ask: Does this promote sovereignty or co-dependency? I think it’s both, depending on the understanding. Much of the traditional interpretation promotes a "self-sacrificing" program that keeps people from transcending. It’s a protocol for staying small, whereas I believe we are here to reclaim the power of our souls by understanding how, when, and where to use our bodies and voices and not to surrender ourselves to outside forces.
Q: Does the Bible teach Ego Death?
A: Before my awakening, I couldn't comprehend this, but yes—there is a truth on the other side of the Ego. But it’s not about "dying" to serve a master; it’s about the death of the "false self" so the Alchemist can emerge.
V. AI & The New Earth
Q: Are you worried about AI taking over jobs?
A: Not at all. AI taking over "mind things" like productivity is a gift. It forces humans to go within to find the truth. If the "mind" is busy with AI, the soul is finally free to focus on the "Unseen internal world,” like our intentions and free will. It’s a marker designed to wake us up.
Q: Is the goal to transcend to a "New Earth" where there is no pain?
A: The goal is to reach a frequency where you are aware and connected to everything. Like a child that crushes a caterpillar in its hands, the lack of awareness causes harm.
At a higher frequency, we don't "need" pain to learn because we are no longer trapped in the mind’s duality. We become Realistic Dreamers: fully present in this reality that everything is a mirror unto itself, and living by the laws of that higher one.
VI. The Final Reclamation
Q: What do I need to know right now for more clarity?
A: Drop the mind into the heart. Stop waiting for justice from a world that is designed to keep you waiting and start creating it within your own energy field right now.
True sovereignty isn't a gift you receive; it is a frequency you inhabit. You are the Alchemist, the Dual Citizen, and the Realistic Dreamer. The void is not your end—it is the forge. Stop being a battery for a reality that doesn't serve you, and start being the architect of the Unseen. Your reclamation doesn't begin tomorrow. It begins the moment you decide to stop hexing yourself with your own words and start speaking your soul back into existence.
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