Jun 4 • General discussion
[6/3/2025] Weekly Support Call Recording
Meeting Purpose
Key Takeaways
- New document extraction tool by Andrew Eng showcased, offering significant improvements in processing complex documents
- Google ADK (AI Development Kit) highly recommended for most developers starting out due to ease of use and core functionality
- Pricing strategies for AI projects discussed, emphasizing value-based pricing and clear milestone structures
- Several participants shared progress on AI-powered tools and applications they are developing
Topics
Document Extraction Tool Demo
- Bastian showcased a new document extraction tool by Andrew Eng
- Tool can process complex documents including handwritten forms and medical reports
- Uses agent-based approach to determine reading order and extract information
- Significant improvement in processing time (from 2 minutes to 8 seconds per document)
- Handles up to 50-page documents in the playground version
ADK vs LangChain/LangGraph Discussion
- Brandon strongly recommends Google ADK for developers starting out
- ADK praised for ease of creating agents and implementing basic workflows
- Core functionalities include sequential, loop, and parallel agents
- LangGraph suggested for more complex, branching workflows
- ADK team responsive to feedback and constantly improving the toolkit
AI Project Pricing Strategies
- Discussion on pricing AI development projects for businesses
- Recommendation to use fixed upfront costs for initial development phases
- Suggested pricing in "tens of thousands" range for substantial business applications
- Importance of breaking projects into milestones (e.g., 15% down payment, 62.5% on completion, 22.5% after testing period)
- Hourly rates of $120-$150 suggested for additional work beyond initial scope
Participant Project Updates
- Maxim: Developing AI tool for Nissan, including new features for recommending financing options
- Alex: Working on government course project, exploring tools like N8N for workflow automation
- Aleksandr: Showcased Telegram bot for downloading music from various platforms
- Richard: Considering AI consultancy approach for businesses struggling with AI implementation
- Kanav: Developing multi-agent tool for marketing content generation for local businesses
AI Workflow and Development Tips
- Brandon shared his approach to using Cursor AI for project planning and development
- Emphasized creating a "master plan" document as a central reference point
- Discussed breaking down projects into tasks and subtasks for better AI assistance
- Recommended using Gemini 2.5 Pro for its large context window in project planning
Next Steps
- Brandon to create video on ADK deployment using FastAPI
- Brandon to develop tutorial on browser agent functionality
- Community members encouraged to try new tools (e.g., document extraction tool) and share feedback
- Participants to continue working on their projects and share updates in future calls
Action Items
- Create video on deploying ADK apps using FastAPI approach + hosting on Google/Agent Engine - WATCH (5 secs)
- Test new FastAPI deployment for ADK, DM Brandon with results - WATCH (5 secs)
- Create 1-min welcome video introducing self, topic (AI marketing tools in regulated environments), expertise, and future content - WATCH (5 secs)
- Create 3-sentence post about Napkin AI tool w/ screenshot showing free features - WATCH (5 secs)
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[6/3/2025] Weekly Support Call Recording
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