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Running ads before having equipment
For those of you that didn’t have equipment before you started running ads, what did you do to create your ads? Were you using stills that you found online, using AI, or maybe filming your own before video but using an after photo that you had found? Also, how long did you have to rent before it became obvious that you should go ahead and buy your own equipment?
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Last fall I bought a $3000 Chinese POS drum mulcher and rented a 97-2 for a weekend and did two pro bono jobs for my girlfriend and family friend and took lots of photos, videos and footage. It broke twice in those 2 days but the footage I got was worth the $3000 and allowed me to launch my business 7 months later after getting website built, social media all primed and running and Google Business Profile operational. Two months later after running ads I have $25,000 on the books for July!!! Spent under $1200 so far on Meta and now about to buy my first new machine - a Takeuchi TB240 and 41” Lipa Flail mower. Will be pairing this with an early 2000s dedicated Rayco C87L Super Crawler with a backup 60” Fecon head with carbides.
Do you ever bundle jobs across customers encounter offer lower prices to customers who have declined initial quotes?
I have a one day $2400 job scheduled for next week on Wednesday, the problem is it’s six hours away from where I have to pick up my drum mulcher and my rental skid steer, so I may end up having to rent the skid steer for two days. I have another customer near where I pick up the skid steer who declined my bid for an $1800 job, but I think he was close to approving, if I could lower the price on that job because I already have the skid steer rented for the other job should I go back with a counter offer or is that not something that we should ever do? I am quoting a third job that is near where I pick up the equipment tomorrow, it is a 500 foot logging road and then a acre of 10 foot tall blackberries and small alder and Willow and the owner wants everything smaller than 3 inches cleared. Ground is fairly level 5% slope. I was probably going to quote that at around $2500 as a day and a half of work. So my only fixed expense isthe skid steer rental is $300 per day (up to eight hours of machine time) or $1250 for a week, (seven days - up to 40 hours of machine time). I own the mulching head and the trailer. Of course I have all the additional overhead of fuel and insurance and maintenance costs on my truck and stuff, but I’m keeping those out of the picture for now. If I could get back the job that was declined and add this new job that I’m doing the site walk for tomorrow, and rent the machine for a week I think I would come out ahead overall, and it would be less stressful to have to do the turnaround with a 12 hours of driving to complete the one signed job on Wednesday. Attached photos showing the WET western Washington jobs with alder and blackberry (declined and quoting tomorrow) and the dry eastern Washington fire prevention jobs with mountain willow and small pine and fir trees (contract signed planned for Wednesday). Thoughts?
Do you ever bundle jobs across customers encounter offer lower prices to customers who have declined initial quotes?
2 likes • May 18
@Martin Wilches I couldn’t bundle because the jobs were too tight together last week and the driving distance wouldn’t allow for back to back days. This week I have the two day ($3000) job but it wouldn’t make sense to rent for the week (600 vs 1275) so bundling and offering a lower rate to the guy who declined the $1800 offer really isn’t an option now.
0 likes • May 18
@Martin Wilches and I got rained out on the one day $2400 job so I ended up having to eat about $1000 worth of expenses because I drove the six hours there and found the county road about 4 inches deep in mud and couldn’t make it the final 5 miles to the job site so I had to eat the rental cost and then drive the six hours back to my house.
New Member - New Business in the PNW - Cascade Mulching Pros LLC
Name's Tolli, owner of Cascade Mulching Pros LLC out of northwest and north-central Washington. I run jobs in Whatcom, Skagit, and Okanogan Counties, based out of both Everson (west side) and Winthrop (east side, Methow Valley). Background is a little different than most of you probably. Spent my 20s doing environmental consulting fieldwork, then pivoted into IT for 30 years, the last 16 as a Technical Program Manager at Microsoft. Got laid off in June 2025 and after no luck finding another job paying $200k/year I decided to stop trading hours for someone else's stock options and build something of my own. Started Cascade Mulching Pros last September. Here's where I'm at honestly: Equipment I own: - HY14C mini excavator (1.4-ton, hydraulic thumb) - 14hp gas - needed for a house project but use for root removal on blackberry clearing projects billing at $225/hr for equipment & operator ($7200) - HY480C mini skid steer - 24hp gas, triple pump, 10GPM+ AUX flow - runs brush cutter well ($6700) - 14-foot 16,000lb gooseneck dump trailer to haul everything and use to dump debris when I upsell that ($11700) - 2005 F350 diesel dually with goosneck ($9000) - 72-inch Chinese drum mulching head - bought for $3000 off Marketplace last fall so I could do 2 demo jobs to create marketing material (broke 6 teeth holders the first day hitting rocks, cheep junk Chinese steel, so had to buy a welder and weld them all back the first night - field-repaired, gets the job done as long as I keep it out of the dirt until I can afford a used Fecon) What I rent: Mini CTL 42" Brush Cutter ($85/d), Grapple ($50/d), land leveler ($40/d) as needed Full-size high-flow CTL for larger mulching jobs. Deliberate choice right now while I build the customer base before making a major equipment purchase. Unfortunately I have to hang a temp plexiglass panel in front of my rental equipment glass doors as none of the local rentals have the demo doors. Created LLC in September, did business plan and created website and all the social media sites for the business and then took a break over the snowy winter months in the PNW. Started back up early April after I finally got my insurance and general contractor license all in order. Printed business flyers and put them on all the bulletin boards in the 3 local counties I am targeting (Whatcom, Skagit & Okanogan for those in the Washington) Started getting some calls almost immediately. In the first 2 weeks I got two paying job completed for blackberry & debris removal projects.
New Member - New Business in the PNW - Cascade Mulching Pros LLC
1 like • May 7
For those of you who have cracked government contracts or DNR work -- what did the path actually look like? That's the part I can't figure out from the outside.
1 like • May 12
@Bryan Ohlsen that would be great. I get down to the Seattle area most Monday evenings to play soccer. You can DM me on Facebook or Instagram or give me a call - would love to chat.
First META ad published - 9 tire kickers and one scheduled site visit in first 2 days
After a month of being overwhelmed by everything related to starting and running a business I finally was able to start my first META ads Tuesday evening - just a simple before and after still photo. I'm in the initial 72 hour let it sit and work phase. I know I need to tweak a few things but I'm happy with the results so far from only a $15/day spend. Messaging conversations started: 9 Cost per Messaging Conversation Started: $4.01 Views: 2.3K I wish I had started this in March - a month before I started work in April!!! I want to expand my spend and tailor the ads to higher paying customers soon. What was your first ad and how quickly did you scale your spend? I have time lapse and drone video, I have lots of photos. I'm trying to figure out what to do for ad number two.
First META ad published - 9 tire kickers and one scheduled site visit in first 2 days
0 likes • May 11
@Roy Campbell leads - OK - is that the one they fill the form? My first campaign was messages - do you find that he leads generates higher quality contacts?
1 like • May 11
@Martin Wilches I increased my spend 20% to $18 per day yesterday. I quoted a $2000 one day job today from it. I have 3 contacts that want site visits so far from the add. About 5 of the 16 messages were spam. So 6 days in I’m at 16 message conversions, at $5.26 each - $84.22 spent.
Blackberry, alder, old cars and cottonwood - 1+ acres
There is approximately a 500’ completely overgrown driveway (logging road) and then about an acre+ of overgrown blackberries, deep grass, and smaller <5” alder and cottonwoods to be removed. Larger trees staying to be cut for firewood. - I’m thinking of quoting 2 days and $3000 (I’m thinking I may be able to finish it in 1.5 days as long as I don’t break any teeth on rocks, old car frames or old well heads. How do you protect yourself in the contracts from unmarked debris such as the car or well? Do you offer discounts on multi day jobs or do you always try to stick to your day rate?
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Worked in technology for 30 years and was laid off last June. Decided to be my own boss. Cascade Mulching Pros - Mulch Made Easy

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