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Client gone wrong
So here is the story about my client. I started this project on August 26th. She wanted the skeleton hand with a rose and lily so I spent from that date till September 16th drawing this. With minimal contact from my client. It took about 3-5 days for her to respond to any of my emails. Than she went ghost for about 9 days until the tattoo appointment day came up and she said she hadn’t forgotten about the appointment and couldn’t wait to come and get it done. She never ended up sending a down deposit and only paid half the tattoo price for now. We planned for her to be here at 8:00 pm after I had just worked a full 12 hour day shift at my full time job as a care aide in a psychiatric hospital ( so extremely busy day). She ended up being an hour and a half late, and then decided to inform me that she wanted something completely different from what I had drawn up. So we ended up doing the stars and moons as the final design. I started tattooing her around 12 last night. It was a 2.5 hour tattoo so it wasn’t horrible but I didn’t get to bed until 5 am this morning. But the final tattoo turned out great and it’s a beautiful piece. There is a lot I learned from this so thats a bonus, but for my first “real” client it was quite the experience lol. And I hope not every client is this much of a struggle…. I know it’ll get better but being an artist that is just starting out there’s not a lot of commitment from clients and sometimes they use us and think they can get away with things. I let this one slide but that will definitely be the first and last time i tattoo her. Thanks for looking and listening to my rant!! I hope you guys are having better experiences then this one went for me lol!!
Client gone wrong
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Great come back Marissa! I have had some tough clients, but really sorry this was your experience with your first paid client. As we spoke about today, lots of lessons along the way - you just got them all at once. Well done for pulling through & making that happen. I can't believe anyone would show up for such a late tattoo, not thinking to let you know they wanted something totally different! There are way better clients right around the corner, I'm sure. And you will really appreciate them. And you still have a great design to offer someone else! 🙂
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@Matt Standafer sorry to hear Matt. Hope you're doing ok!
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@Marissa Scott thanks for joining Marissa, it was a great first call. We'll do another in a couple of weeks!
✨️ Quick reminders!!!
☎️ Our first live call is this Thursday!!! It's scheduled for 11am (PST). I'm hoping that in the calender section it shows in your timezone (can you check please!). I hope you can make it. If there's anything you'd like to talk about, have some questions ready. No pressure, I'm just really looking forward to getting to know you guys better while the group is still small! Also - I've added lessons to the Tattoo 101 course in the classroom section. If there's anything you guys would like included just let me know. And if you're on the call on Thursday, that would be a great time to talk about it! I'm always open to feedback as we keep adding to this community!!!
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@Marissa Scott perfect, glad you're looking forward to it!
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@Marissa Scott sounds good Marissa. Sounds like you're working hard right now. I hope the tattoo went well!
🌐 Resources!
I'll be adding to a list of everything I use & how I use it in the classroom soon. There are so many useful tools available. Thanks @Karl Hubbard for asking about my stencil process. I'll upload a full tutorial soon. I've been using this ai stencil app this past year for almost all of my tattoo prep. I do check them closely though, because the ai can get important details wrong occasionally. I often redraw parts in procreate, but this still saves me a lot of time! You can create stencils, copy them & paste straight into procreate on a new layer. And they are the correct size already. This is made by tattooers, for tattooers - https://tattoostencilpro.app/
🌐 Resources!
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@Karl Hubbard I hope it helps Karl. I love having just the clean edges marked & less noise from all of the textures that you get on some stencils. The realism part is up to you & it won't look cartoony unless you draw in the lines. I kiss recommend checking parts like the eyes to make sure it gets them right.
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@Karl Hubbard you can always add a little more if a tattoo fades. Way better than going to dark, you can't change that! Any chance you could drop a coin or your hand in the side of your photos. Seeing how big these are will help me advise on technique. Your shading looks a little more stippled in this, so just wondering if its smaller. Are you liking a slightly stippled look to your shading, or are you going for a smooth result if possible? There's no right or wrong there, its down to your preference.
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@Karl Hubbard ok perfect great to see the sizes. These look good & if you're on the wrong side of the skin then that would play into it. Not a bad excersise though because actual skin can vary from person to person. I always take some time when I'm starting a tattoo to test the skin. I think when you get chance to try a lower stroke machine, you're going to love it. The packer does tend to stipple the shading a little because its quite punchy. So you've been learning to work against that & still getting good results. When you try another machine I bet you'll find those soft shades & fades go in so much easier! Putting your skins on an uneven surface to a good idea too. You'll get a different feel for the machine as you need to adjust your angles more around the curve.
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Steve Kretz
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I’m a realistic Tattoo Artist (+10yrs), here to help professional artists find success in their careers. Also a lover of Hiphop & Superheroes!

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