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Make it make sense 🫠
Does anyone have any idea why Atomik would switch to the tiny vials for their 1000g NAD? I just bought a bulk pack (BOGO) and now I have to purchase 20 empty vials. I know, first world problems. But I am slightly annoyed. 🫣
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@Tracy Constable right I just bought one 700mg NAD+ and got one free and they both came in those tiny 3 ML vials.
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@Tracy Constable yeah well I found out a really stupid way. I didn’t realize that the vial was only 3 mL cause it didn’t say it anywhere on the vial and I just am not familiar with exactly how much each size can hold so I thought I could fit at least five ML‘s in there so I start putting the BAC water in and obviously I get to three ML’s and I go to stick the syringe in for the seventh time because these were 50 units syringes and I get about 10 units in and all of a sudden it pushes the water back because it’s at the top. So that’s how I figured out that I could fit three ML’s in there. 😂 So I am literally using the 3 mL vile for my 700 mg NAD+.
Kpv
Would there be a benefit to taking kpv along with Klow-cu. Peptira sent me the wrong vials and i have 4 vials of kpv.
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@Melissa Sigler I would save them in case you want to switch up your cycle in the future. For example, I did a cycle of Klow and now I’m taking the break, but when I go back to it instead of re-ordering Klow I decided this time I’m going to do straight GHK-cu and KPV separately. It’s been something I’ve been debating for a while and I’ve been reading a lot of people’s opinions on whether taking the peptide separately or taking the blend is better. Some people feel like they get better results taking them separate separately. Especially since the other three peptides in the blend, we get a lot smaller amounts of in order to measure the proper amount of the GHK-cu. You could also just continue taking KPV on your weeks that you’re off of Klow and see if you get any benefits from that alone.
SS-31 Price!
Does anyone know why SS – 31 is so much more expensive than other peptides? For a single vial at Atomik Labz it’s $199. And that’s the only one they have as an option. It’s 50 mg. I wanted to run a cycle of that before starting Mots-c but that’s so much more affordable. I don’t mind paying $80 $90 $100 for a single peptide especially a blend but I haven’t come across one before that was $200. Does anyone know of any of the other vetted vendors on this site that sell it for less?
0 likes • 15d
@Hack Smith yes I did see that they put a second one in my cart for free, but it really only need one right now and since I need to buy a few other peptides that one really adds up. But I will look into your price tool on your site. It’s so weird because it seems like all the other ones are under $100. I mean, I can get Mots-c for $39 and Semax and Selank for $35 on that same website. I was just wondering if maybe there was something special about that peptide that made it so much more expensive.
What peptide is the absolute best for sleep? Dsip??
Looking for something to help my sleep. Just staying asleep for a 6hrs would be great.
1 like • 20d
I just started a cycle of Epithalon and I swear to God, the last two nights that I took it I slept amazing. And I’m someone who suffers from intermittent insomnia due to per menopause. And there’s some debate about dosage, but the more research I did confirmed that the synthetic version we’re taking is different than the Russian experiment with Epithalamin that used much higher dosages such as 5 mg to 10 mg. Whereas with Epithalon it Epitalon you get similar results and dramatically lower doses. So I started at 500 MCG and the most I would go up to is 1 mg. It’s only a 20 day cycle, but I had such deep sleep that it reminded me of when I was a teenager.
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@Luis Roman second night was also great sleep.
Epithalon dosing
Has anyone else come across the two schools of thought regarding the appropriate daily dosing for Epithalon or Epitalon? As I was doing research, I noticed that some charts use the dosing based on the Russian study of Epithalamin which was 5 mg to 10 mg per day. However, it has been debated that the synthetic version of the peptide we are using Epithalon requires a dramatically lower dose per day, and that was suggested at 500 mcg-1mg per day. Those are two significantly different dosing schools of thought. And I understand the research behind. It makes sense, but I haven’t found a consistent answer as to which one is correct or maybe there is no answer.
2 likes • 24d
@Cindy Long thank you. I’m definitely sticking with the 20 day cycle. And I posted this same question on another group on Skool and got a lot of really good feedback. Which is kind of confirming that a lot of the higher dosages the 5 to 10 mg are based on that Russian research with Epithalamin which is different than the synthetic version we have of line Epithalon. So I think I am going to start off my first cycle with either the 500 MCG or 1 mg per night for the 20 nights.
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