@Carrie H since there can be multiple variables involved; it’s tough to determine a linear visible change. I am much larger and composed since last year that defies normal growth. I’ve been implementing the doses of 20g for about 3-4 months. No hydration problems or kidney problems. Due to my size I assume my body can hold more. Visibly stronger at lower body weights and overall more composed. Aside from the tissue size, the brain creatinine levels are barely influenced at 10g but that’s where changes start to happen. It also is highly beneficial for women’s menstrual health. I’m not sure when, but I will be going up to 30g and seeing how it goes. I’ve seen what it does for powerlifting at a high dose, but for natural bodybuilding…what are we leaving on the table?