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10 contributions to Clief Notes
Shape of Quotes/Proposals
When offering AI consulting/advice/workshops to clients, what do you proposals and quotes look like, and what details are you providing? Pitching to a client today, I will probably end up giving a 1 day workshop then provide ongoing support/builds. I'm happy with the pitch deck but not sure what to put in the proposal once it lands. I can just do a basic quote in Xero but I feel like it should have more to it (yes I am also chatting about it with Fable).
1 like • Jul 27
@Mofedul Alam Joy incredible mate, I should be paying you for this info. Thanks very much.
📊 POLL: What industry are you actually building for?
We talk about folders all day, but the folders are FOR something. I want to know what... 🎖️Bonus points: comment with the single most painful manual process in your industry. The best comp entries come from exactly those answers.
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1 like • Jun 19
@Joshua Hubbard depends on the project, often I still need to make judgement calls. The highest value in finding is doing a first pass at auditing mine schedules.
0 likes • Jun 26
@Joshua Hubbard Can a day or 2 and leaves room for human error. The auditor I built doesn't actually use any AI, I just got it to write the python script that does the audit.
We've all turned this into a Claude skill, right?
I'm assuming I'm not the only who's done this and please tell me if it's a bad idea, but I'm assuming we've all turned ICM structure into a Claude skill? If I've got a new project I run /init-max that I've built, and Claude generates folders and MD files based off questions it asks me. It's not allowed to assume answers unless I blatantly say I'm not sure. To build it I've just pointed Claude at module 3 in the foundations classroom and said "make this a skill". Has anyone done the same or is this a terrible idea?
2 likes • Jun 17
@Curtis Hays no one truly knows the multi generational feud between our two clans, yet it's a cross I'm happy to bare as long as my name doesn't start with such a soft letter.
1 like • Jun 18
@Peter Potter glad I'm not the only one!
Clients trapped in the Microsoft "Copilot Prison"
I’m running into a massive bottleneck with corporate clients right now. Because they’re handling market-sensitive data, their IT compliance teams have them completely locked down into Microsoft. No external APIs, no Claude—nothing. Ideal world would be building solutions in CC. I’m convinced the only real solution here is building custom tools and agents natively inside their system (Azure OpenAI, Power Platform, Copilot Studio, etc.) rather than trying to pitch external pipelines they'll just reject anyway. Has anyone actually built robust, advanced agent workflows strictly inside an MS-only corporate environment? Curious to know how you handled the architectural constraints, and if it's worth the headache of building inside their sandbox. Let me know what you've found works.
2 likes • Jun 15
@Shannon Lietz how have you found linking it to obsidian, was there a guide you worked off of or did you kind of figure it out yourself based off claude+obsidian setups?
1 like • Jun 16
@Roy Borglund good question, these are still LLMs but the vision side is getting better. I find Claude code is just good at taking apart any file in general, it's all just data at the end of the day.
Microsoft Integrates Openclaw
Microsoft is integrating OpenClaw, an open-source personal AI assistant framework, into its ecosystem through Project Lobster and the new enterprise-grade agent Microsoft Scout. Originally developed by Peter Steinberger, OpenClaw allows for autonomous, always-on agents that operate across messaging channels and Microsoft 365 apps, automating tasks like email triage, calendar management, and file operations. To address significant security concerns raised by Microsoft Defender—which warned that standard OpenClaw runs untrusted code with persistent credentials—Microsoft is hardening the technology via Scout. This version wraps OpenClaw in enterprise security controls, utilizing isolated Entra IDs for governance and sandboxed execution to prevent unauthorized actions like prompt injection attacks. While the core open-source tool remains local-first, Microsoft’s internal "Ocean 11" team is actively building reference patterns to make OpenClaw-based agents safe for large-scale corporate deployment. I incorporated ICM into my OpenClaw, and it helped tremendously. There might be opportunity here...
1 like • Jun 4
@Aaron Klein saw in the MS brief yesterday too they're suggesting to run it on a separate device like openclaw, then just limit it to specific sharepoint/network folders. I suspect most (reasonable) people would just create its own folder and only feed it what's necessary.
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