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Episode 3: Stop being the copy-paste layer between your AI agents
Most multi-agent demos stop at "look, two agents can talk." In a client business, the hard part is knowing who owns the work, whether it was actually done, and what happens when an agent stalls. For Episode 3 of Agent Operators, I sat down with Jason Myers of AppLayer. He built Tango after realizing he had become the human copy-paste layer between his agents. We connected Hermes to a shared task list, watched workers claim jobs, and dug into audit trails, task leases, and recovery. Then I showed how Orgo cloud computers let you see and control the work when an agent needs a real desktop. In the conversation: • 04:19 — Hermes creates a task in Tango • 19:56 — Preventing two agents from doing the same job • 21:16 — Recovering stalled tasks • 30:25 — Agents working on Orgo cloud computers Watch the full 36-minute episode: https://youtu.be/LKCZXIGmrY4 If you’re deploying agents for clients, where do your handoffs still depend on you?
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Nick, I'm curious about how your viewing this. It's a fairly big platform and feels like it's a bit much for a solo operator starting out. Have you used this in any meaningful way yet? It looks amazing and I showed it to some people and it just went right over their head. Like yeah I'd never need that. What size of projects are we looking at this being useful. In earlier videos you stated keeping the agent sprawl to a minimum. Recently i've installed the nous research mcp to spin up agents and I can see a powerful use case there with the ease of use also with the claude code subscription sdk coming out, where and how does orgo fit into this ?
A Cron Job Is Not a System Until It Can Remember Its Work
Hermes can run a cron job without ICM. It can wake up on schedule, read a source, write a report, send a message, and save the run output. It also has its own durable storage: - session history, - persistent memory, - cron definitions and run logs, - skills, - and whatever files it creates in the workspace. That is useful. But it can still leave you with a familiar mess: > a chat somewhere > a cron log somewhere else > a report with no obvious home > and an agent that needs you to explain the project again next week That is where ICM (Interpretable Context Methodology) comes in. I use ICM around my Build Market Close signal cron so the **job is not the whole system**. The cron is just the heartbeat. The structure holds the memory: ```text pinned-post-curriculum-signal/ ├── CONTEXT.md ├── signal-register.md ├── reply-drafts.md ├── curriculum-outline.md └── runs/ └── YYYY-MM-DD/ └── signal-review.md ``` Here is what each part does: - **`CONTEXT.md`** tells a fresh agent what source it may read, what counts as meaningful signal, what it may write, and where it must stop for me. - **`runs/YYYY-MM-DD/`** keeps a dated receipt of every review: what the job saw, what changed, and what it deliberately did not do. - **`signal-register.md`** is the one place for real questions, objections, implementation friction, and learner needs. - **`reply-drafts.md`** holds proposed answers for review. Nothing gets posted automatically. - **`curriculum-outline.md`** turns repeated questions into a better lesson sequence instead of letting them disappear into comments. So the cron does the recurring check. But ICM makes the check **usable**. A fresh agent can open the folder and answer: 1. What is this job for? 2. What source is it allowed to use?
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Exactly. The heartbeat only helps when the output has an owner, a known review point, and a clear next destination. I use the folder as the readable source of truth and dated run receipts for what happened; a task system can carry the follow-up commitments and progress. The important part is the explicit link and human review gate, not one specific tool. How do you decide which items become follow-up tasks versus staying in the run receipt?
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@Tony Iverson > Your comment helped me sharpen the system. I kept the workspace as the source of truth, but added two lightweight registers around it: one tracks each meaningful follow-up, its owner, status, source evidence, and what closes it; the other tracks each published post, its identity, and whether monitoring is actually authorized. > > So a run receipt no longer just lands in a folder. It is either recorded with no action, brought to review, assigned an approved next step, held for missing evidence, or closed with a receipt. The daily review only surfaces the items that truly need a decision. > > That gives me the task-tracking clarity you described without making the task app—or the chat log—the place where the context lives.
Building the agent is honestly the fun part.
Keeping track of everything after deployment gets messy fast. The workflow I've been using: github.com - code + version history n8n.io - workflows and integrations docs.google.com - client SOPs and documentation floment.ai - tracking each agent as a project with fixes, tests, and next actions That last part became way more important once I had multiple things running. "Deployed" doesn't mean finished when clients start finding edge cases 😅 How are you guys managing agents after they're actually live?
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I operate my agents with ICM, agents as folders. Your running your workflows on n8n and only using the Hermes Agent as the orchestrator. I suppose I’d ask, where does the context data reside? Without understanding the workflows its hard for me to see why I would trade my process for N8N. I like the idea of documenting the agent as a project.
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@Tony Iverson Good question. I want to respond and I will, my response was really not a (my method is better), I am actually interested in understanding your standard here, because it looks highly structured and repeatable. Delivering hermes agents at scale requires it. I havent scaled anything yet, so looking for that structure. I do have a multi-player ICM system that will work for scale, but handing off a system to a new engineer or hiring someone requires more than a cool whizbang.
Additional Course Modules?
Is there only the 1 module with 6 videos in this skool? If not, how are the others that are mentioned when signing up accessed?
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not sure, but I think that was probably designed as future state. I'm guessing it's desire at this point and not shipped.
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