@Jp Cumberlidge Thanks John great idea to build a community like this, I started out on the boss RC1 then RC300, tried the head rush but wasn't a fan of the buttons, yes i have found Mobius does crash a lot, i believe when Ed used it for his X tour he had that problem to, I was thinking about going to the Sheeran Looper X only thing is i would like 5-6 tracks ideally not sure if there is a way to connect the Sheeran Looper X and Looper + together to create a 6 track looper, iv'e seen videos of Ed performing in Old Delhi and he's got both connected together.

@Jp Cumberlidge Exactly that's why Ed's team made there own loop software to get away from mobius, when it works it's great but that's the thing "when it works" and that's cool that you can connect the two Sheeran models together via midi defiantly something to think about, thanks John 👍