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Fake equity
I get a lot of deals sent to me where they present equity cushion based on ARV. Unfortunately, I can't calculate equity off anything other than today's value. If the house is worth 200K today, reno costs 50K, ARV is 300K and the loan request is 225K. We're not at 75% LTV. We're at 112.5% LTV.
A lender gave me a simple rule before they'd look at any deal I send them.
5X. They won't fund more than 5 times a borrower's liquid assets. That's the ceiling. But before we even get there, we run a faster filter first: Liquidity minus down payment minus 15% of rehab costs has to be greater than zero. If it's not, the deal's dead before underwriting starts.
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I had someone reach out about a lending opportunity in OR. These were the stats she gave me: Purchase Price: 385,000 Rehab: 17,000 -80,000 ARV: 550,000-570,000 Total Spread: 570,000 - 17,000 - 385,000 = 168,000 It looked good, but I had to decline...because there was no buffer, she's taking the high end of ARV and low end on the rehab. Costs to sell were not included, nor were there carrying costs for the life of the rehab. Updated Numbers: PP: 385,000 Rehab: 80,000 Buffer: 16,000 ARV: 550,000 Carrying Costs: 23,500 Cost to sell: 55,000 Total Spread: -9,500 This was a no go.
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@Iván Terrero the biggest issues to me were the fact that rehab was either 17K or 80K. That's a huge gap. She gave me the reasoning that the ARV would be at 1 number but much higher with a 80K rehab. It makes sense but to me you either have a plan or not this or that. She was also using the higher ARV with the lower rehab amount which made it look like a good deal. In her rehab, there was no buffer or cushion for overruns. She was expecting a perfectly run project that was on budget and on time. She did not include cost to sell. Realtors charge fees. Her argument was that she's the agent and will make it work. I still want to see that worked in there because there's a possibility that she could have been tied up with something else or other unforeseen circumstances that would prevent her from either doing her job as a realtor or doing it well. For the same reasons you always budget PM costs when buying a rental for self managed properties, I want all expenses laid out. Her cost savings by selling the property herself and gaining the commission is a bonus for the numbers and not a requirement to get the numbers to work.
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Is there anyone in here who's interested in raising capital?
Always get a copy of the PSA
I can't believe this happened. I went through all the work to get a loan through, only for it to fall apart at the end. The borrower didn't even have it under contract. Lesson learned.
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@Geraldo De Pina Neto I just tell them that I can help them with their deal and explain our process. What are they asking for specifically?
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@Geraldo De Pina Neto got it, a soft approval doesn’t mean anything so I just give it. I don’t give a letter or anything. Soft approvals don’t mean anything to me. I want to see an actual deal
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