Am I a slave for really enjoying this material thing (my new MacBook) which I have purchased with my man made money, from which I've "earned" from my man-made job? Which is man made and that technically nobody owns, and is alien technology according to Goatis? I personally think that the world in its current state is too boring and unfulfilling to not have like material pleasures, like a good sound system for blasting black metal, or watching content. Or like a nice truck instead of driving a piece of shit car. A nice bed instead of a boars rug (although floor sleeping is goated). You can minimalist maxx like, bloodsteal is trying right now, but is that really the best way? Is this fantasy of nature that Goatis speaks of really true? We don't live in nature, we don't have the constant stimulus and fulfillment we otherwise have. And that's not to say material things will give you that kind of fulfillment. But we could even take a new spiritual or philosophical look at life in which Men were here to come to earth to conquer and rise above nature, create militaries, weapons, civilizations, books, literature, art, etc. And that we were meant to dominate nature, create technology, and eventually be able to materialize things out of thin air. Because it is all a form of magic, which by definition is, (the science and art of causing change in conformity with will) And if we think about how to win, the Indians "natural" axes and tomahawks weapons were brutally mogged by white settlers more advanced weaponry. This is an example of how rising above nature can actually lead you to "win". Nuclear weapons mog everything. I believe that aliens (the ones who built the pyramids) oversee us. Nature is a construct. And these aliens themselves LITERALLY enjoy and use technology. That us dumb humans have no access too. So now I'm in a place where I believe nature is good but also rising above nature is also good. So like for an example, I have a man made beautiful house with gaming PC, but I would also go hunting and drink blood. But yeah we are still in enslavement, and this creates the circumstances of modern life.