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PETITO FOR 3
PETITO SUMMARY — 3 HOMES, FAMILY TRUST AND HEIR DISPUTE Where: California Who: 2 family lines What: One branch of the family lives in all 3 homes right now. I'm sharing this for feedback. I want to know if this deal looks good to other experienced operators and would like some insights if I'm missing anything. PROPERTIES::: Home 1: - 3 bed, 1 bath, 1,160 sqft house - 0.32 acre lot - Value guesses (at 70% of full price): Zestimate: $239,260 Propwire: $231,988 XLeads: AVM: $266,186 MKT: $383,040 Home 2: - 2 bed, 1 bath, 897 sqft house - 0.34 acre lot - Value guesses (at 70% of full price): Zestimate: $249,190 Propwire: $181,805 XLeads: AVM: $280,242 MKT: $341,964 Home 3: - 1 bed, 1 bath, 662 sqft house - 0.4 acre lot - Value guesses (at 70% of full price): Zestimate: $200,970 Propwire: $155,339 XLeads: N/A AVM: $256,346 MKT: $305,298 Total value for all 3 homes (70% of value): Zestimate: $689,420 Propwire: $569,132 XLeads: AVM: $802,774 MKT: $1,030,302 EQUITY::: Total taxes owed on all 3 homes: about $10,600 Home 1: about $4,140 owed. Late on taxes from 2023 to 2025. This year is paid. Home 2: about $2,130 owed. Late on taxes from 2023 to 2025. This year is paid. Home 3: about $4,330 owed. Late on taxes from 2021 to 2025 (the longest). This year is paid. *Solar Lien (amount unknown) TITLE::: - The grandparents used to own all 3 homes. - In 2007, they moved all 3 homes into a family trust. From that point on, the trust was the legal owner, not the grandparents by name. However, they are named as "settlors" and "trustees" within the trust transfer deed. - Both grandparents have since passed away. One passed in 2018. The other passed in early 2019. - In 2021, a solar lien was placed on one of the homes. But both grandparents were already dead by then. This means the lien may have been taken out through fraud — someone may have signed for people who were no longer alive to sign anything. This is a big red flag. INTERESTED PARTIES::: - One branch of the family (the late son's side) owns half of the estate, 50%. This half splits between 4 people: 2 brothers and 2 sisters. Each one gets about 12.5%.
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@Christina Sanchez unfortunately not :/
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@Shango Collier my bad. I thought Erwins comment was great. But if I were to add to it.. this a framework taught by Rick Harmon and Ellis San Jose. P you just want to give the general background of the property. E.g single family, zoning, lot size, as-is value etc E is where you stack the liens and encumbrances T is the title that is vested into now I is for interested parties. Typically the heirs/beneficiaries, but sometimes I like to include other relevant parties like the bank tryna foreclose.. or other leads that help me bridge the gap T are threats. E.g there is a foreclosure judgment.. there is a irs lien.. the trust papers are lost.. all heirs are on board except for one.. O I opportunity.. how can we capitalize here.. all heirs gave me a verbal.. etc But like Erwin said thus framework just allow me to compartmentalize a lot of the major moving parts into their own buckets. Hope that helps
Squatter
We’re dealing with a squatter situation in New York. The heirs mentioned that the occupant was the decedent’s best friend, but he hasn’t been maintaining the property, and now there’s a foreclosure suit pending. I tried reaching out to him directly. When that didn’t work, I contacted his kids. Then I went another level down—relatives and associates. Only one relative, a half‑brother, responded, and he basically said he doesn’t care what happens to him. lol My goal is simply to get a conversation started—nothing heavy like a demand letter. Ideally, we’d offer a cash‑for‑keys arrangement instead of going through a legal eviction. As I continue following up on all provided contacts, I wanted to ask the group: What would you say in a text or voicemail to get his attention?
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@Shango Collier it's all good. I post these in multiple groups 😅
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@Jenn Waldman Ty Jenn 🤝
R.M Short Sale???
This is more of an angled question.. but I am currently talking to one of the heirs in Florida who was named executor. She has opened up 3 probates and have an ongoing lis pendens from a reverse mortgage note. I believe the principal, interest, and other fees combined totals up to 399k for thr payoff.. but the property burnt down and it is just a lot now. Is it possible to do a short sale on this lot? I have no idea how short sales work lol
PETITO
A JV deal I am currently working on. I made contact and felt like it was a good conversation. For the operators here what would be the biggest red flag for you here? Here for inputs and insights! Thank you. 🏠 PROPERTY - Asset Class: Duplex (multi-family residential) - Address: [Florida] - AS-IS Value: Not confirmed — one unit had a confirmed structure fire at the rear of the property; condition likely impacted - Property taxes are current, no delinquency 💰 EQUITY - No mortgages or liens mentioned - Property appears free and clear of financial encumbrances - Life Tenant manages the property, collects rent, uses proceeds to cover expenses and support an elderly sibling - No documented paperwork on the deceased co-owner's estate interest — his share is informally acknowledged but legally unresolved 📋 TITLE - Current vesting (per county appraiser): - [Uncle] – Life Tenant - [Uncle's Wife] – Life Tenant - [Daughter 1], [Daughter 2], [Daughter 3] – Remaindermen (Life Tenants' children) - [Deceased Father's Estate] – Listed on title; estate interest unresolved - Life Estate deed executed approximately 7 years after the co-owner's passing - No probate or estate documentation has been filed for the deceased co-owner's interest 👥 INTERESTED PARTIES - [Uncle] (Life Tenant, ~88 yrs old) – Out-of-state; current property manager; not motivated to act - [Uncle's Wife] (Life Tenant) – Listed on title - [3 Daughters] – Remaindermen; will inherit the uncle's half upon life tenants' passing - [Contact / Son 1] – Out-of-state; open to selling; believes he and his brother are owed 50% through their late father's estate - [Son 2 / Brother] – Out-of-state; more involved and detail-oriented; takes care of their incapacitated mother; previously pushed for a trust — key decision-maker - [Mother] – In a nursing home; under plenary guardianship of her sons; mentally incapacitated; her interest (if any) is legally frozen
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@Phillip Thai Appreciate you responding here! From my conversation it seems like the brothers are interested in moving forward with something especially when they say they wanted to take the proceeds and pay off any expenses, mainly their mother's hospital bills. That kind of signals to me they don't have the financing down and need some cash. Secondly, the plan was to have the brothers have 50% of the share, but the last deed I am seeing shows that they are not part of it. Couldn't access court dockets atm because it was down so I was unable to see any probate that was filed. But even then, if the family were pretty close they would have at least known there was a probate.
P.E.T.I.T.O
P.E.T.I.T.O Property: Single Family in Florida Equity: Ranges from 500-600k (Sniff test amount) Title: In name of deceased owner who passed away for more than 2 years to-date. Interested Parties: 4 heirs. Main heir is willing to rally all other siblings if there are no upfront costs on their end. Threats: Date: 4/12/2002 Lender: WA MUTUAL Loan Amt: $30,000 Loan Type: fixed‑rate, closed‑end, future‑advance mortgage loan Date: 7/15/2004 Lender: WA MUTUAL Loan Amt: $50,000 Loan Type: Stand-alone mortgage Date: 5/23/2008 Lender: JAMES B. NUTTER & CO Loan Amt: $510,000 Loan Type: Reverse Mortgage ReFi Searched for mortgages and deed of trust in the county recorder and clerk of court, but only found the 1st loan in the records. Decedent passed away 2 years ago and the property is only behind on 2025 year taxes, and I cannot find any judgment or lis pendens action from the R.M Lender nor any assignment of mortgage. I looked further into the Reverse Mortgage lender's name 'James B. Nutter & CO' and found this DOJ article: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/james-b-nutter-company-pay-24m-allegedly-causing-false-claims-federal-mortgage-insurance If you've read the article, it's to my knowledge, when banks are falling apart or going out of business they'll usually sell the note by assigning it over to another loan servicer, but I haven't been able to find anything like that in the county recorder's and clerk of courts. The previous lender settled for $2.4m and they have completely STOPPED originating loans since 2022. With these pattern of facts would this be a RESOUNDING "O"PPORTUNITY??? lol Is there a possibility that the lender has forgotten about this loan during the whole debacle? Even though reverse mortgages are U.S backed loans could there be an opportunity to quiet the title? Thank you for your inputs!
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@Phillip Thai Might be a buy and hold rental play because the note is still there. Not sure if there's even a way to extinguish a hud loan
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