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92 contributions to Owen The Geek
Learning styles and how it impacts you writing music
I sent this originally to Owen but wondered if anyone else felt this way too as part of this learning journey. Background: been producing for ~20Y - and reached my "self taught" limit - could never reach the levels of production excellence I wanted despite being almost obsessive about detail - hence joining this amazing group. I was getting released by some of my favourite labels but increasingly felt unhappy with the quality of my production and especially sound design compared to the scenes top artists. Quality is improving at such a rate and I feel left behind When I started on OTG and started reviewing content I was massively overwhelmed at first - I estimated it'd be 18m-2y to unlearn 20y of self taught/youtube guru bad habits and start embedding new techniques on autopilot rather than focusing so heavily on the techniques while writing. I can't feel/write vibes when I'm thinking technically(kinda like having two brain modes which don't operate simultaneously - I can't learn and exploit that learning at the same time). For me it currently it's all business - when that becomes automatic, it'll be more pleasure. I can write songs, but that bit seems to have been lost because I'm focusing so technically. I still think it'll be that long to start seeing that advance. It's a good thing and it's exciting - I guess this is just my personal journey. What I can categorically say is that the value of this learning is unquestionable - it's incredible. Anyone else been through/going through this journey?
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I'm lucky here, in that Owen's methods are closer to what I've been trying to do. So the parts I've absorbed slot in. I don't feel obliged to synthesize my own drums the moment I start my track. Eventually I'll just be like, this kick is no longer carrying this track and its time to make a better one. For trying to keep it in your head, I say don't. Just write your songs, and then do a more "produced" version on top using some production techniques, and then do the mixing using the mixing techniques. Just sequence the steps!
Resonance Risk
Listening to member tracks sent to me recently, I realise I need to make this point clear. When it comes to the business of de-resonating sounds, LOW frequency resonances tend to pose a LOW risk, and HIGH frequency sounds tend to pose a HIGH risk. That's NOT to say there's absolutely no place for high frequency resonance whatsoever (tambourines, anyone?). Rather, high frequency resonances must be handled with extra care and attention. That's also NOT to say that all low frequency resonance is automatically fine, just that it's relatively less likely to cause real problems. Excessive hi hat, shaker, or ride/crash cymbal resonance in particular seriously give me the ick. Potentially the same issue for the high frequency area on a snare, clap, or even a kick top. P.S. Low frequency resonance is essential/unavoidable for virtually all music, whereas high frequency resonance could, in some cases, potentially be omitted entirely.
Resonance Risk
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I forget when but there's a great archive video that goes into detail with examples about how, if your highs are loud, don't make them constant, and if they are constant, definitely don't make them resonant and loud. They are for moments. That was an eye opener... ... as was watching Owen tilt eq down my loud vey spiky resonant highs, and even though I couldn't consciously hear the difference suddenly my shoulders and jaw relaxed and my music felt 1000x better.
The process of track creation. Mixing after or during?
Hello guys. I need your opinion on how to distribute your time and efforts during the process of creating a track from scratch. I found myself in a methodological trap trying to mix during production and writing. I always do everything in parallel, however I'm in a doubt because it has some cons that I really feel. So I think if you try to mix or engineer the sound BEFORE you have completed the musical ideas you risk to spend much more time and even get very tired of the track you are working on. And I've got tired of a couple of latest tracks trying to make them sound as perfect as possible.
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Compose arrange mix arrange compose mix mix arrange mix master in new file some import tracks from old file for more arrange and mix then master again I think that’s how I’ve done most of them
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@Owen Palmer you know why I'm here! 😁
My kick matching technique with serum + shaperbox
Hey! Owen asked me to share a technique I came up with yesterday while synthesizing kicks in Serum. It was easier to show than explain, so I recorded a video. Pardon me for being a bit hungover. We had a crayfish party last night, a late-summer tradition that involves a lot of crayfish, akvavit, and vodka 🦞 The technique itself is all about matching the cycles of your kick exactly to a reference. Hope this helps you guys!
My kick matching technique with serum + shaperbox
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This is very cool. I think Kick 3's kick copier works similarly under the hood. But then you're stuck in Kick 3 and you can't swap the wavetables.
I failed at step 1 🤦‍♂️
Turns out I've been exporting without master effects on for like the past year or so
2 likes • Sep 11
Viperactive does this on purpose, there's a whole movement around process everything upstream and just have the final chain be a 0db ceiling hardclip
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